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I love the idea, but a quick review of tweets shows a bunch of seemingly inconsequential reports for meal refunds where the issue is that the meal price is an o

• prophet_ 9y ago
  It would also be handy if we had a short description of the suspicion in the tweet message itself.
• yelloweyes 9y ago
  The average brazilian does not spend 50 BRL on a meal. Why should a public servant be able to? These guys are living like kings when they are mostly blowhards with very few skills other than being able to manipulate poor people into voting for them.
  • gomox 9y ago
    Well, a congressman is hardly an average citizen. I don't necessarily disagree with your point but that doesn't necessarily mean that spending 15 USD on lunch is a sign of corruption. Brazil is in many ways similar to Argentina (where I live) and the average voter doesn't value austerity much. Our current president is the son of one of the richest businessman in the country, and is a millionaire himself.
• lenilsonjr 9y ago
  Take this one, for instance: https://jarbas.serenata.ai/layers/#/documentId/6185347 https://jarbas.serenata.ai/layers/#/documentId/6185347 R$239.50 or $74. That's 25% the minimum wage here in Brazil. This means that this congressman was paying for someone else's meal, which is in itself an act of corruption. And even if that's not the case, most Brazilians can't afford a 40 BRL meal on a regular basis, so why should a politician be able to do so with our money? If you dig deeper into other reports, you can also see congresspeople spending public money in sex shops and clubs, for instance (https://twitter.com/cuducos/status/840882495868530688 https://twitter.com/cuducos/status/840882495868530688).
  • gomox 9y ago
    I think there are two separate issues. I don't know whether paying for someone else's lunch is OK according to regulations for meal stipends in Brazil. I wouldn't call that corruption off hand, but it might be forbidden. I defer to you on this. Personally I live in Buenos Aires and I regularly spend USD 15 on a no frills lunch menu in a fancy-ish neighborhood (nothing fancy for the food itself, no desert, the kind of place where a group of 20 people from nearby offices have a loud lunch). From my experience Sao Paulo is more expensive than Buenos Aires, so it didn't strike me as odd initially. That's out of reach for the statistical average of income from Argentineans, but it's not an amount that a congressman wouldn't be able to afford on their own dime. I certainly wouldn't get outraged at the expense or assume corruption - congressmen are paid significantly above minimum wage.
    • badosu 9y ago
      40 BRL can pay a lunch in a very good restaurant, maybe not the commoner's bit understandable. 100 BRL would pay a buffet in a fancy barbecue shop, the absolute limit for me. 200 BRL+ is completely unnaceptable. Do they want to eat at a bistreau with public money?
    • lenilsonjr 9y ago
      You're missing one important thing here. These spendings that Serenata's robot tweets are literally reimbursements that congresspeople receive from the federal government for spendings needed while "on duty". They aren't paid using their salaries. If that was the case, there would be no problem (legally speaking).
• bighi 9y ago
  You're thinking about meal prices on richer countries. I am a software developer, so I get paid more than the average Brazilian. And I spend 14~18 BRL (4.3 to 5.5 USD) on a good meal regularly. 39 to 75 BRL is very expensive to our standards. The restaurant I take my wife on our anniversary costs 60~70 BRL per person. Someone spending close to 75 BRL per day is the equivalent of eating every day in that nice restaurant you go a couple times a year.
  • gomox 9y ago
    Where do you live? I live in Buenos Aires and in my experience Sao Paulo is pricier. The amounts dont seem crazy to me. Edit: if they actually did it every day then it wouldn't be a statistical outlier :P
    • bighi 9y ago
      > if they actually did it every day then it wouldn't be a statistical outlier :P True, haha!