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But are the valley companies worse then the old gatekeepers of information who is pretty much the ones currently leading the charge against the internet giants.

But are the valley companies worse then the old gatekeepers of information who is pretty much the ones currently leading the charge against the internet giants. It's really easy to pick what look like a powerfull target and accuse them of doing what you want in order to gain the exact same power, in fact just about every totalitarian state seams to have used that propaganda tacics. It's much harder to come up with a coherent strategy to actually improve the situation to the point where no gatekeepers exist and people have real genuine material freedom rather then just immaterial freedom of a mostly fictional nature

TAForObvReasons 9y ago
> are the valley companies worse then the old gatekeepers of information Yes, primarily because the regulations regarding media, news, and other traditional entities haven't been applied to tech companies. That is slowly changing as the law is starting to catch up. It took more than a decade to states to finally start taxing internet purchases across state lines (closing the "nexus loophole"). It will likely take years before we see meaningful regulation affecting google / amazon / fb
- Stranger43 9y ago
  But is/was it a good thing for the traditional elites with it's track record of war, suffering and oppression to be allowed back as paymaster to the gatekeepers? I.E. is the glorious past people look to by default when criticizing the Internet giants actually an society we want to return to, especially if we imagine ourselves as a citizens of somewhere who is not a de-facto colonial power. I.E. what kind of regulation do you actually want and how much power are we willing to centralize inside the increasingly untrustworthy system of revolving doors that most governments seams to have been devolving into since the last war to end all wars ended.
lamename 9y ago
I think they are somewhat worse since they have the ability to make their influence better targeted to the individual, rather than just common groups of people, as the old gatekeepers could

TAForObvReasons 9y ago

> are the valley companies worse then the old gatekeepers of information Yes, primarily because the regulations regarding media, news, and other traditional entities haven't been applied to tech companies. That is slowly changing as the law is starting to catch up. It took more than a decade to states to finally start taxing internet purchases across state lines (closing the "nexus loophole"). It will likely take years before we see meaningful regulation affecting google / amazon / fb

Stranger43 9y ago
But is/was it a good thing for the traditional elites with it's track record of war, suffering and oppression to be allowed back as paymaster to the gatekeepers? I.E. is the glorious past people look to by default when criticizing the Internet giants actually an society we want to return to, especially if we imagine ourselves as a citizens of somewhere who is not a de-facto colonial power. I.E. what kind of regulation do you actually want and how much power are we willing to centralize inside the increasingly untrustworthy system of revolving doors that most governments seams to have been devolving into since the last war to end all wars ended.

lamename 9y ago

I think they are somewhat worse since they have the ability to make their influence better targeted to the individual, rather than just common groups of people, as the old gatekeepers could