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I think "his late 80's" seems more likely. The GP post mentions his grandfather fighting in the Boer War (~1900) which would make him almost 110 years old in th

by kmm 9y ago

I think "his late 80's" seems more likely. The GP post mentions his grandfather fighting in the Boer War (~1900) which would make him almost 110 years old in the late 80's

sokoloff 9y ago
Perhaps. It would seem equally unusual for a 65+ year old soldier to be in a position to be captured as a PoW in Japan.
- dutchieinfrance 9y ago
  The Japanese had all the Dutch imprisoned in Indonesia, not just soldiers. A number of male prisoners had been shipped off to Japan to work in labor camps.
  - sokoloff 9y ago
    Yes, but ancestor post says "He was a Dutch Soldier captured by the Japanese held as a prisoner of war."
    - doktrin 9y ago
      At the end of the day, anyone who fought in the Boer war was born no later than the early 1880's.
    - mikeash 9y ago
      If he was still in the military at that point, then wouldn’t that be an accurate description?
      - sokoloff 9y ago
        Of course. At that point though, it would be unusual enough [for a soldier to serve actively in 1902 and in 1945] that when interpreting conflicting points in a story, that you have to consider if perhaps the author hasn't gotten something mixed up in the memory or in the telling. If I told a story about my own grandfather's service in World War II in the Seabees (by happenstance he was also a coal miner as a civilian), I'd be likely to get something wrong, not out of intention to mislead, but just that I pieced together the story in my own memories in a certain way when I was told the stories as a young boy. I may mix in details from my other grandfather's service or a great-grandfather's time. Then, weigh that against a non-native speaker's chance to use a common English idiom "in the late 80s" in a non-standard way and against the chance that someone would express some negative interpretation of someone passing in their late 80s as being perhaps related to radiation exposure and black lung. It's all speculation for all of us except one. ;)
equalunique 9y ago
Perhaps it was his regimen in the Dutch army which had captured Churchill during the Boer war. I.e., the leadership in that regimen were present during that time in the Boer War. I don't know the story all that well because this is all stories from decades ago. The person who knew it best currently has dementia. (Wish HN had the ability to edit a comment from 5 hrs ago.)

by kmm 9y ago

I think "his late 80's" seems more likely. The GP post mentions his grandfather fighting in the Boer War (~1900) which would make him almost 110 years old in the late 80's

sokoloff 9y ago

Perhaps. It would seem equally unusual for a 65+ year old soldier to be in a position to be captured as a PoW in Japan.

dutchieinfrance 9y ago
The Japanese had all the Dutch imprisoned in Indonesia, not just soldiers. A number of male prisoners had been shipped off to Japan to work in labor camps.
- sokoloff 9y ago
  Yes, but ancestor post says "He was a Dutch Soldier captured by the Japanese held as a prisoner of war."
  - doktrin 9y ago
    At the end of the day, anyone who fought in the Boer war was born no later than the early 1880's.
  - mikeash 9y ago
    If he was still in the military at that point, then wouldn’t that be an accurate description?
    - sokoloff 9y ago
      Of course. At that point though, it would be unusual enough [for a soldier to serve actively in 1902 and in 1945] that when interpreting conflicting points in a story, that you have to consider if perhaps the author hasn't gotten something mixed up in the memory or in the telling. If I told a story about my own grandfather's service in World War II in the Seabees (by happenstance he was also a coal miner as a civilian), I'd be likely to get something wrong, not out of intention to mislead, but just that I pieced together the story in my own memories in a certain way when I was told the stories as a young boy. I may mix in details from my other grandfather's service or a great-grandfather's time. Then, weigh that against a non-native speaker's chance to use a common English idiom "in the late 80s" in a non-standard way and against the chance that someone would express some negative interpretation of someone passing in their late 80s as being perhaps related to radiation exposure and black lung. It's all speculation for all of us except one. ;)

equalunique 9y ago

Perhaps it was his regimen in the Dutch army which had captured Churchill during the Boer war. I.e., the leadership in that regimen were present during that time in the Boer War. I don't know the story all that well because this is all stories from decades ago. The person who knew it best currently has dementia. (Wish HN had the ability to edit a comment from 5 hrs ago.)