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personally, I can't stand to read any article about an 'MVC variant' that has some new idea for how to delineate the difference between model, view, and control

• beobab 9y ago
  This. I spent a good long while trying to find out how I was "supposed to do it", only to find out "there are loads of ways", and "it depends". This left me feeling like nobody really knew, and that everyone was just chucking dirt and hoping it stuck.
  • YouKnowBetter 9y ago
    Or as a friend of mine would put it: Coding is closer to art then to sience, and briliant code more like poetry then math. I've been in this industry for over 35 years. On dark days I'd give my left leg for working templates and strickt design patterns. On good days I love the close to absolute freedom we have.
  • geezerjay 9y ago
    It's not that nobody knows. It's as some frameworks prefer to shoe-horn the MVC pattern to their particular implementation which has some nuances, and therefore prefer to create a whole new jargon to dance around that fact. In some cases there are even frameworks who force gui responsibilities onto the model and don't even provide any controllers and yet still feel entitled to call what they did as MVC. Meanwhile,