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Google Chrome Is The New “Down For Everyone Or Just Me”

92 points by Garbage 16y ago

hngryhppos 16y ago
Does anyone know of a down website where I can test this new feature?
tyng 16y ago
Thanks for sharing, will look out for that message when I get that "Oops" page again.
- aw3c2 16y ago
  Ok, HN, why do you downvote this? It is a thankful positive comment. Above with the same amount of votes, but upvotes, is "This has been in Chrome for quite a while now." which does not seem any more constructive yet spread negativity. I would understand not upvoting this, as it is no real contribution (though I immediately understand what this was about without having to read the linked article) but why downvote?
  - zppx 16y ago
    Lately I began to observe downvotes patterns here on HN and saw that some people downvote instead of commenting or ignoring when they disagree with a comment or an idea, comments in topics about Microsoft, Google or Apple are a favorite target.
    - eogas 16y ago
      Welcome to reddit!
  - michael_dorfman 16y ago
    I didn't downvote the comment in question, and I hate these meta-discussions, but anyway: A "thankful positive comment" that adds no new information to the discussion is just noise. People downvote comments like this in order to discourage them, and keep the signal/noise ration high. "This has been a Chrome for quite a while now", by contrast, at least adds something new-- that this is not a new feature. It's not a great comment, but at least there's some "signal" there.
    - tyng 16y ago
      Ok maybe I'm new on HN but I did read the "Welcome to Hacker News" (http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html) guideline which said: 'Empty comments can be ok if they're positive. There's nothing wrong with submitting a comment saying just "Thanks."' And the definition for a comment worth downvote is "What we especially discourage are comments that are empty and negative—comments that are mere name-calling." This is all to ensure a positive, encouraging culture on HN, thanks
    - eogas 16y ago
      I like the way you think! ....wait, uhhhh....I've got nothing, downvote me.
pak 16y ago
This article give me a nervous twinge when I realized that if Google ever got Chrome to be a majority-share browser, they would really know everything there is to know about the web. In effect, their algorithms/rankings could be peerless because they would actually know what every end user does and sees on the web. The browser is wonderful but it's quite chatty about all of your Internet habits. I wonder if this message appears even if you turn off all the "send my history to Google" preferences.
- akshayubhat 16y ago
  Chrome is open source, so in case something like this happen you can either investigate the source code, or create a more privacy compliant version. No such luck with I.E. or Safari.
  - thezilch 16y ago
    While Chromium is open source, Chrome is not and could certainly "hide" away such features, but you're right to say that a more-private fork could / would be close behind.
    - akshayubhat 16y ago
      Thanks, I didn't knew that, It seems to be like Android model, where they open source it few weeks after public disclosure of features.
      - ithkuil 16y ago
        I use the daily build of chromium on my ubuntu linux. I'm pretty sure that it's the main line of development and I regularly receive new features, new bugs and new bug fixes as days passes. After some time all this goes to the chrome beta and finally in the chrome release. I don't think that google adds tons of code 'behind' the back of the opensource repository which is then merged only a few weeks later, because I see a gradual change (aka. the phenotype of those changes) in the daily builds from the chromium repository.
Setsuna 16y ago
I'd like to see this feature getting into other browsers too.
jonursenbach 16y ago
This has been in Chrome for quite a while now.
- ithkuil 16y ago
  does it appear always or only if the dns record exists but the server doesn't respond? I run Chromium 7.0.510.0 and I don't see this page when I hit a page which doesn't exist or when I point to an existing web server host but a random tcp port (s(t)imulating icmp 'connection refused')
- est 16y ago
  I am using Chrome 7.0.503.0 (r57033) Dev on Win7 32bit and never seen this.
nanairo 16y ago
I like this bit... "And you look like an ass for your rant that you just spewed on Twitter (or on Facebook when it’s Twitter that is down)." Like, you know, this was the civil and normal thing to do: "Something doesn't work, and I payed _nothing_ for it: get the torches and the pitchforks!!!" Here it's an alternative: just calm down and you won't look like an ass either.

92 points by Garbage 16y ago

hngryhppos 16y ago

Does anyone know of a down website where I can test this new feature?

tyng 16y ago

Thanks for sharing, will look out for that message when I get that "Oops" page again.

aw3c2 16y ago
Ok, HN, why do you downvote this? It is a thankful positive comment. Above with the same amount of votes, but upvotes, is "This has been in Chrome for quite a while now." which does not seem any more constructive yet spread negativity. I would understand not upvoting this, as it is no real contribution (though I immediately understand what this was about without having to read the linked article) but why downvote?
- zppx 16y ago
  Lately I began to observe downvotes patterns here on HN and saw that some people downvote instead of commenting or ignoring when they disagree with a comment or an idea, comments in topics about Microsoft, Google or Apple are a favorite target.
  - eogas 16y ago
    Welcome to reddit!
- michael_dorfman 16y ago
  I didn't downvote the comment in question, and I hate these meta-discussions, but anyway: A "thankful positive comment" that adds no new information to the discussion is just noise. People downvote comments like this in order to discourage them, and keep the signal/noise ration high. "This has been a Chrome for quite a while now", by contrast, at least adds something new-- that this is not a new feature. It's not a great comment, but at least there's some "signal" there.
  - tyng 16y ago
    Ok maybe I'm new on HN but I did read the "Welcome to Hacker News" (http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html) guideline which said: 'Empty comments can be ok if they're positive. There's nothing wrong with submitting a comment saying just "Thanks."' And the definition for a comment worth downvote is "What we especially discourage are comments that are empty and negative—comments that are mere name-calling." This is all to ensure a positive, encouraging culture on HN, thanks
  - eogas 16y ago
    I like the way you think! ....wait, uhhhh....I've got nothing, downvote me.

pak 16y ago

This article give me a nervous twinge when I realized that if Google ever got Chrome to be a majority-share browser, they would really know everything there is to know about the web. In effect, their algorithms/rankings could be peerless because they would actually know what every end user does and sees on the web. The browser is wonderful but it's quite chatty about all of your Internet habits. I wonder if this message appears even if you turn off all the "send my history to Google" preferences.

akshayubhat 16y ago
Chrome is open source, so in case something like this happen you can either investigate the source code, or create a more privacy compliant version. No such luck with I.E. or Safari.
- thezilch 16y ago
  While Chromium is open source, Chrome is not and could certainly "hide" away such features, but you're right to say that a more-private fork could / would be close behind.
  - akshayubhat 16y ago
    Thanks, I didn't knew that, It seems to be like Android model, where they open source it few weeks after public disclosure of features.
    - ithkuil 16y ago
      I use the daily build of chromium on my ubuntu linux. I'm pretty sure that it's the main line of development and I regularly receive new features, new bugs and new bug fixes as days passes. After some time all this goes to the chrome beta and finally in the chrome release. I don't think that google adds tons of code 'behind' the back of the opensource repository which is then merged only a few weeks later, because I see a gradual change (aka. the phenotype of those changes) in the daily builds from the chromium repository.

Setsuna 16y ago

I'd like to see this feature getting into other browsers too.

jonursenbach 16y ago

This has been in Chrome for quite a while now.

ithkuil 16y ago
does it appear always or only if the dns record exists but the server doesn't respond? I run Chromium 7.0.510.0 and I don't see this page when I hit a page which doesn't exist or when I point to an existing web server host but a random tcp port (s(t)imulating icmp 'connection refused')
est 16y ago
I am using Chrome 7.0.503.0 (r57033) Dev on Win7 32bit and never seen this.

nanairo 16y ago

I like this bit... "And you look like an ass for your rant that you just spewed on Twitter (or on Facebook when it’s Twitter that is down)." Like, you know, this was the civil and normal thing to do: "Something doesn't work, and I payed _nothing_ for it: get the torches and the pitchforks!!!" Here it's an alternative: just calm down and you won't look like an ass either.