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Point of Order: Godwin suspended Godwin's Law indefinitely, likely in response to the alt-right and Trump's election.
by knieveltech 9y ago
Point of Order: Godwin suspended Godwin's Law indefinitely, likely in response to the alt-right and Trump's election.
- psyc 9y agoWell. It’s official then.
- dempseye 9y agoJust shows that invoking Godwin's Law as if it had probative force was nonsense in the first place. Valid principles of reasoning can't be suspended by fiat.
- analognoise 9y agoThere...are....FOUR...LIGHTS!
- leereeves 9y agoName calling is not a valid principle of reason.
- dempseye 9y agoNot sure what your point is.
- leereeves 9y ago> Just shows that invoking Godwin's Law as if it had probative force was nonsense in the first place. Valid principles of reasoning can't be suspended by fiat. What is the valid principle of reasoning allegedly suspended by Godwin's Law? Most invocations of the Nazis are nothing more than name calling.
- knieveltech 9y agoThat statement was substantially more accurate 24 months ago when we didn't have organized groups of individuals marching in our cities literally chanting Nazi slogans.
- dragonwriter 9y agoGodwin’s Law wasn't suspended and isn't a principle of reasoning. (Godwin did indicate that a common adaptation of the law, which is a principle [though not a valid one] of reasoning, which is often mislabeled as the law itself, was both overly broad and specifically improper when applied to particular comparisons to the Nazis.)
- dempseye 9y ago> Godwin’s Law... isn't a principle of reasoning Turns out what I was referring to was not the law itself, but a principle that is mislabeled as it, which I object to people using as a "checkmate" move or as a thought-terminating cliché.
- kelukelugames 9y agoI fetched the quote from wikipedia. I didn't even realize Godwin was still alive. I assumed he was some long dead Greek philosopher. >On December 2015, Godwin commented on the Nazi and fascist comparisons being made by several articles on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying: "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump. Or any other politician." On August 13, 2017, Godwin made similar remarks on social networking websites Facebook and Twitter with respect to the two previous days' Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, endorsing and encouraging efforts to compare its alt-right organizers to Nazis.
- knieveltech 9y agoThanks for digging up the source material for my original statement. Not sure why you're getting downvoted.
- badcede 9y agoWhat vanity to think he has any rights over it.
- SllX 9y agoEven prior to Trump's election and prior to Godwin suspending Godwin's Law I had seen a decline in references to Godwin's Law, even in places where I would have expected to see it invoked. This decline was noticeable to me even in 2012.