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No, you don't know the difference when you talk about climates and then link to the weather for a single day as supporting evidence.

libertine 9y ago
The day was an example among a period of years of extreme drought. Drought is the outcome of years of low precipitation - it's not one day, one week,one month or one year. The recovery won't come in the same time period I said in the previous sentence. It will take years of rain to refill what was lost, not to mention there might be erosion already that have made some riverbeds/lakes permeable again, so water will not be held there. The spring of the main river in the Iberian Peninsula has dried. Many other springs of secondary rivers have dried as well. It's not weather. It's climate change.
- mseebach 9y ago
  I don't know who you're debating. Your original comment used a reference to the weather to argue a point about climate. You can't do that, as your follow up comments clearly explain.
  - libertine 9y ago
    I can do this: > You don't need to go to South America, Asia or middle East - it's happening in Europe and no one seems to notice. First sentence commenting an article about drought in several continents, yet they didn't mention Europe. So I stated such thing is happening in Europe. > Look at Portugal and Spain, it's becoming a desert - the day of the cold wave the south of Portugal and Spain had the same temperatures of some country's in Africa. In this sentence I state the example of Portugal and Spain - and gave an example of a day of extreme cold, snow and rain in Europe and parts of that territory (the iberian peninsula) had a day with temperatures similar to parts of Africa. Saying I can't use weather to argue about climate is the same thing as saying I can't talk about anything which is the outcome of something else. I'm not saying that because of that specific weather event in that day (or days) it set the climate for that region - I say it has a point of data. I gave you more - which is a clear example of a long term effect resulting from climate change - the drought of the main river. Do you want more data points?
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libertine 9y ago

The day was an example among a period of years of extreme drought. Drought is the outcome of years of low precipitation - it's not one day, one week,one month or one year. The recovery won't come in the same time period I said in the previous sentence. It will take years of rain to refill what was lost, not to mention there might be erosion already that have made some riverbeds/lakes permeable again, so water will not be held there. The spring of the main river in the Iberian Peninsula has dried. Many other springs of secondary rivers have dried as well. It's not weather. It's climate change.

mseebach 9y ago
I don't know who you're debating. Your original comment used a reference to the weather to argue a point about climate. You can't do that, as your follow up comments clearly explain.
- libertine 9y ago
  I can do this: > You don't need to go to South America, Asia or middle East - it's happening in Europe and no one seems to notice. First sentence commenting an article about drought in several continents, yet they didn't mention Europe. So I stated such thing is happening in Europe. > Look at Portugal and Spain, it's becoming a desert - the day of the cold wave the south of Portugal and Spain had the same temperatures of some country's in Africa. In this sentence I state the example of Portugal and Spain - and gave an example of a day of extreme cold, snow and rain in Europe and parts of that territory (the iberian peninsula) had a day with temperatures similar to parts of Africa. Saying I can't use weather to argue about climate is the same thing as saying I can't talk about anything which is the outcome of something else. I'm not saying that because of that specific weather event in that day (or days) it set the climate for that region - I say it has a point of data. I gave you more - which is a clear example of a long term effect resulting from climate change - the drought of the main river. Do you want more data points?
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