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The editor war isn't over yet :D https://github.com/zachcurry/emacs-anywhere https://github.com/zachcurry/emacs-anywhere (here) vs. https://github.com/cknadl

by JepZ 9y ago

The editor war isn't over yet :D https://github.com/zachcurry/emacs-anywhere https://github.com/zachcurry/emacs-anywhere (here) vs. https://github.com/cknadler/vim-anywhere https://github.com/cknadler/vim-anywhere + https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16395379 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16395379 Nice to see them both still in use :-)

curryz 9y ago
You’ve got that right! I built this as a knee-jerk reaction to vim-anywhere. XD
- josteink 9y ago
  How is this different from “it’s all text”?
  - FrenchyJiby 9y ago
    For one it seems to be system-wide rather than Firefox-specific (too bad It's All text doesn't work after Quantum). Apparently relies on the clipboard instead of filesystem
- bb88 9y ago
  I respect your honesty here. ;)
nabla9 9y ago
"Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy?" "Because we use vi, son. They use emacs."
- deleted 9y ago
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WrtCdEvrydy 9y ago
Okay, next weekend... let's do nano-everywhere!
- melling 9y ago
  Maybe instead someone will reinvent the editor. Voice assistant integration, for example. Perhaps better understand code structure.
  - zamber 9y ago
    HEATHEN! The holy, never-ending war must continue. Seriously, what voice commands would be better than clacking on a keyboard? For code structure we have AST-fueled refactoring tools, auto linters, auto formatters... the main problem with these is that you're forcing people to use a single IDE/editor with a particular set of plugins with a particular configuration. And usually it's not even VIM or Emacs!
    - melling 9y ago
      Use your imagination. It’s not really to hard to figure out how to use voice in an editor. Think higher level than next Word, next word. Pretend you aren’t hunched over the keyboard with your fingers at the ready. And I didn’t say replace the keyboard.
      - btschaegg 9y ago
        For some reason, I couldn't help but imagine someone using Parinfer using voice commands and innocent bystanders recoiling in disgust because of the constant "slurp!", "barf!", "slurp!" interjections. xD
      - zamber 9y ago
        I did. You could re-implement the Vim command building language in a natural language. You'll hit walls sooner or later. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome for ergonomics and a pretty powerful tool, but for now Google Assistant has issues in recognizing if I want a timer for 13 or 30 minutes. 1/5 of speech recognition searches are gibberish, especially when I use own names. Correcting a typo takes far less time than backtracking speech - that's one of the main issues I see when people use any speech-to-text converter. People weigh their words carefully or they're in a world of pain trying to backtrack an error. If we supplement the keyboard then what is faster and easier to do? "replace all" $potato "with" $banana > hit enter < OR say "enter" s/potato/banana/g If you have an actual use case in mind that would dwarf keyboard input then give an example, please.
jaequery 9y ago
It really doesn't have to be a war anymore. Nowadays, you have both EMACS/VIM hybrids best of both worlds.
- easytiger 9y ago
  No, modal editing is utterly insane in today's environment.
platz 9y ago
Thank God we don't live under a soviet-era communist editor dictatorship

by JepZ 9y ago

curryz 9y ago

You’ve got that right! I built this as a knee-jerk reaction to vim-anywhere. XD

josteink 9y ago
How is this different from “it’s all text”?
- FrenchyJiby 9y ago
  For one it seems to be system-wide rather than Firefox-specific (too bad It's All text doesn't work after Quantum). Apparently relies on the clipboard instead of filesystem
bb88 9y ago
I respect your honesty here. ;)

nabla9 9y ago

"Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy?" "Because we use vi, son. They use emacs."

deleted 9y ago
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WrtCdEvrydy 9y ago

Okay, next weekend... let's do nano-everywhere!

melling 9y ago
Maybe instead someone will reinvent the editor. Voice assistant integration, for example. Perhaps better understand code structure.
- zamber 9y ago
  HEATHEN! The holy, never-ending war must continue. Seriously, what voice commands would be better than clacking on a keyboard? For code structure we have AST-fueled refactoring tools, auto linters, auto formatters... the main problem with these is that you're forcing people to use a single IDE/editor with a particular set of plugins with a particular configuration. And usually it's not even VIM or Emacs!
  - melling 9y ago
    Use your imagination. It’s not really to hard to figure out how to use voice in an editor. Think higher level than next Word, next word. Pretend you aren’t hunched over the keyboard with your fingers at the ready. And I didn’t say replace the keyboard.
    - btschaegg 9y ago
      For some reason, I couldn't help but imagine someone using Parinfer using voice commands and innocent bystanders recoiling in disgust because of the constant "slurp!", "barf!", "slurp!" interjections. xD
    - zamber 9y ago
      I did. You could re-implement the Vim command building language in a natural language. You'll hit walls sooner or later. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome for ergonomics and a pretty powerful tool, but for now Google Assistant has issues in recognizing if I want a timer for 13 or 30 minutes. 1/5 of speech recognition searches are gibberish, especially when I use own names. Correcting a typo takes far less time than backtracking speech - that's one of the main issues I see when people use any speech-to-text converter. People weigh their words carefully or they're in a world of pain trying to backtrack an error. If we supplement the keyboard then what is faster and easier to do? "replace all" $potato "with" $banana > hit enter < OR say "enter" s/potato/banana/g If you have an actual use case in mind that would dwarf keyboard input then give an example, please.

jaequery 9y ago

It really doesn't have to be a war anymore. Nowadays, you have both EMACS/VIM hybrids best of both worlds.

easytiger 9y ago
No, modal editing is utterly insane in today's environment.

platz 9y ago

Thank God we don't live under a soviet-era communist editor dictatorship