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> a more balanced perspective which you would've received from traditional media outlets Are you serious? Traditional media outlets have always been run by the

• cristianpascu 9y ago
  It's slightly harder to fill a whole newspaper page with non-nuanced text than it is to fill a tweet.
  • moomin 9y ago
    Yet somehow the Daily Mail manages it every single day.
  • GuB-42 9y ago
    Filling a whole paper is harder than writing a tweet, sure, but nuance has nothing to do with it. It is very common to see an entire page of arguments all pointing in the same direction. It can be even worse because it allows for a sneaky progression from well accepted facts to whatever bullshit they want you to believe. For example a tweet may go "Chlorinated water kills thousands of people every year". An full article may start with actual scientific research about how chlorine can kill, then talk about some specific group of people who don't drink chlorine water and are healthy, follow up by talking about some people making profit off water chlorination, throw in some stories about decadent billionaires and then deliver the final message. Nothing about that is nuanced.
• nabla9 9y ago
  > almost always reflected the ideas of the existing system. The existing system has reflected the liberal democratic ideas (ideals in plural).
  • fao_ 9y ago
    Really? I look at the everyday newspapers, and I see even the "left wing, unauthoritarian" news papers preaching xenophobia, ignorance, and bad science. None of which are present within traditional academic "left-wing liberal" thought, with writers such as Rosenburg and Chomsky. Part of this is that the Overton Window has shifted so far right that "left wing" in the mainstream now means "center", however it cannot be ignored that what the mainstream considers 'normal' has indeed been shifted over time by the editors (and through them, the owners) of the newspapers. I think for me the most startling revelation recently was that what I considered to be a traditionally marxist perspective and given right, "The freedom from want", was adopted by western countries during World War Two. It's a damn shame that although it is a founding right, it, and efforts to implement it, have been for decades ignored and disparaged within the media and within "right-wing" academic circles.
    • mistermann 9y ago
      > the Overton Window has shifted so far right that "left wing" in the mainstream now means "center" As a conservative, I'd claim the window has shifted in the other direction, at least in some respects. Are you able to give any examples that you see as evidence of a broad shift to the right?
      • HillaryBriss 9y ago
        maybe i'm misperceiving this, but it seems that the left's criticism of US military action has diminished or been muted. in the 60's people on the left literally criticized US soldiers as they returned to the US from Vietnam. (the phrase "baby killers" comes to mind). you don't hear that sort of thing today. criticizing US soldiers is just not done. even Barbara Boxer touted her work with the "Wounded Warriors" project. Al Franken went on USO tours. it's just not ok to criticize US soldiers. on the contrary, we thank them for their service and try not to call into question what happened "over there." furthermore, when GW Bush argued for an invasion of Iraq in 2003, an awful lot of Democratic politicians got on board and voted to authorize it. i think they were afraid not to authorize it. later, drone attacks carried out by the Obama administration were more or less accepted too.
• bamboozled 9y ago
  Don't shoot the messenger. I was just stating what I read from the article. While I understand what you're implying, I think it's wrong to assume every single media outlet is bias.