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>But by actively preventing third-parties from porting their services to WP [citation needed] The only history i'm aware of with google blocking app developme

>But by actively preventing third-parties from porting their services to WP [citation needed] The only history i'm aware of with google blocking app development on windows phone is when they sent C&Ds to people developing apps that stripped all the ads off youtube and played background audio. They also consistently take down and block android apps that violate the TOS in this way, and i don't see anybody saying that google is trying to kill android.

zeusk 9y ago
Hahaha https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4624706/google-blocks-window-phone-youtube-app https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4624706/google-blocks-win... https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4625502/microsoft-responds-to-google-youtube-windows-phone-block https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4625502/microsoft-respond... Google pulls this same bs with consoles as well, both PS4 and Xbox One (S/X) have a shitty HTML5 app that just doesn't fit well with rest of the system.
- ChrisAntaki 9y ago
  Really? I've used the ps4 YouTube app a bunch to watch videos, and movies purchased from the play store. My phone can cast to it as well. Seems to work as well as the Netflix app. I've had more issues with the ps4 store app honestly.
- snuxoll 9y ago
  So does Apple TV now after the most recent update, and it’s absoultely terrible.
snuxoll 9y ago
Nobody stripped ads offf YouTube videos - Google doesn’t provide an API you can use to display them in the first place and they had no desire to make a native application themselves to remove the necessity. The background audio stuff, sure - that happened.
danieldk 9y ago
Google blocked the web version of Google Maps in Internet Explorer for Windows Phone: https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone/#gN6bXpMcZEqh https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone/#g... Maps worked fine with exactly the same Trident engine on the desktop. Moreover, if you change the user agent string, maps also worked fine with Windows Phone.
- thaumasiotes 9y ago
  That seems like a pretty simple fix for Microsoft to make on behalf of every Windows Phone user... Google can't compel MS to identify its phones for Google's benefit.
  - arcticfox 9y ago
    Google would just change the user-agent they were blocking to whatever Microsoft changed it to. It was intentional.
    - thaumasiotes 9y ago
      Again, there's no rule that says devices must have unique user-agents. Once you've established that Google wants to block Windows Phone from using maps, you can send the user-agent string of something they don't want to block.

zeusk 9y ago

Hahaha https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4624706/google-blocks-window-phone-youtube-app https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4624706/google-blocks-win... https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4625502/microsoft-responds-to-google-youtube-windows-phone-block https://www.theverge.com/2013/8/15/4625502/microsoft-respond... Google pulls this same bs with consoles as well, both PS4 and Xbox One (S/X) have a shitty HTML5 app that just doesn't fit well with rest of the system.

ChrisAntaki 9y ago
Really? I've used the ps4 YouTube app a bunch to watch videos, and movies purchased from the play store. My phone can cast to it as well. Seems to work as well as the Netflix app. I've had more issues with the ps4 store app honestly.
snuxoll 9y ago
So does Apple TV now after the most recent update, and it’s absoultely terrible.

snuxoll 9y ago

Nobody stripped ads offf YouTube videos - Google doesn’t provide an API you can use to display them in the first place and they had no desire to make a native application themselves to remove the necessity. The background audio stuff, sure - that happened.

danieldk 9y ago

Google blocked the web version of Google Maps in Internet Explorer for Windows Phone: https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone/#gN6bXpMcZEqh https://mashable.com/2013/01/05/google-maps-windows-phone/#g... Maps worked fine with exactly the same Trident engine on the desktop. Moreover, if you change the user agent string, maps also worked fine with Windows Phone.

thaumasiotes 9y ago
That seems like a pretty simple fix for Microsoft to make on behalf of every Windows Phone user... Google can't compel MS to identify its phones for Google's benefit.
- arcticfox 9y ago
  Google would just change the user-agent they were blocking to whatever Microsoft changed it to. It was intentional.
  - thaumasiotes 9y ago
    Again, there's no rule that says devices must have unique user-agents. Once you've established that Google wants to block Windows Phone from using maps, you can send the user-agent string of something they don't want to block.