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> On the internet I still don't understand what that means exactly. > whereas Project Gutenberg has zero connection to Germany. I disagree. > what does the

by jhasse 9y ago

> On the internet I still don't understand what that means exactly. > whereas Project Gutenberg has zero connection to Germany. I disagree. > what does the nationality of Gutenberg the historical person have to do with anything? Is shakespeare.com subject to uk laws? There's a lot inbetween of zero connection with country X and subject to it's law. So regarding shakesbear.com: No, not necessarily.

sjwright 9y ago
> There's a lot inbetween No, there isn't. Or are you saying Austria could have a greater claim of jurisdiction over Tesla because of its name? Germany has no more "ownership" over the German language than England has over English.
mcguire 9y ago
Are you really asserting that a) anything in the German language falls under the jurisdiction of the German government, and that b) a relationship bearing on legal jurisdiction between two otherwise completely unrelated entities can be created by otherwise unrelated third parties?
- slake 9y ago
  Point a is covered under GDPR. If you have German on your website their courts have jurisdiction. The language is so vague that they will have jurisdiction over all the world when it comes to PI privacy laws.
  - mcguire 9y ago
    That's...a little disturbing.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    If you have German on your website their courts have jurisdiction. Nope: "In order to determine whether such a controller or processor is offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union, it should be ascertained whether it is apparent that the controller or processor envisages offering services to data subjects in one or more Member States in the Union. (...) the mere accessibility of the controller’s, processor’s or an intermediary’s website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, or the use of a language generally used in the third country where the controller is established, is insufficient to ascertain such intention" (emphasis mine) As long as German is used in the country where PG is located - and it is - then it's not enough to show that they're targeting German citizens. https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/
- jhasse 9y ago
  a) No b) What do you mean exactly?

by jhasse 9y ago

sjwright 9y ago

> There's a lot inbetween No, there isn't. Or are you saying Austria could have a greater claim of jurisdiction over Tesla because of its name? Germany has no more "ownership" over the German language than England has over English.

mcguire 9y ago

Are you really asserting that a) anything in the German language falls under the jurisdiction of the German government, and that b) a relationship bearing on legal jurisdiction between two otherwise completely unrelated entities can be created by otherwise unrelated third parties?

slake 9y ago
Point a is covered under GDPR. If you have German on your website their courts have jurisdiction. The language is so vague that they will have jurisdiction over all the world when it comes to PI privacy laws.
- mcguire 9y ago
  That's...a little disturbing.
- icebraining 9y ago
  If you have German on your website their courts have jurisdiction. Nope: "In order to determine whether such a controller or processor is offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union, it should be ascertained whether it is apparent that the controller or processor envisages offering services to data subjects in one or more Member States in the Union. (...) the mere accessibility of the controller’s, processor’s or an intermediary’s website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, or the use of a language generally used in the third country where the controller is established, is insufficient to ascertain such intention" (emphasis mine) As long as German is used in the country where PG is located - and it is - then it's not enough to show that they're targeting German citizens. https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/ https://gdpr-info.eu/recitals/no-23/
jhasse 9y ago
a) No b) What do you mean exactly?