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Didn't you see the links to articles with a lot more information and from reputable journalists in the post? Why are you even asking me? Those articles will giv

by da02 9y ago

Didn't you see the links to articles with a lot more information and from reputable journalists in the post? Why are you even asking me? Those articles will give you a lot more info. Go ask the journalists who covered the situation for this "theory about _Neo_Nazi in Ukraine". Here are more articles from some established sources: * https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11025137/Ukraine-crisis-the-neo-Nazi-brigade-fighting-pro-Russian-separatists.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11... * And another one: https://original.antiwar.com/chris_ernesto/2015/01/28/us-announces-support-of-neo-nazis/ https://original.antiwar.com/chris_ernesto/2015/01/28/us-ann... * And another one: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-question-in_b_4938747.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/the-neo-nazi-q...

v_lisivka 9y ago
I'm from Ukraine. Where I can meet NeoNazi? Ukraine lost about 30 millions in war against them.
- da02 9y ago
  If any of those articles have inaccuracies, please say so. I never visited the Ukraine and I am not claiming to be an expert. Do you live near Kiev?
  - v_lisivka 9y ago
    I'm from Ukraine. I have 360°FOV realtime true color view at Ukraine. You asked me to say about inaccuracies, so here is answer. In short: There is no Nazi in Ukraine. There are some attempts to create nationalistic ultra-right organizations by Russian agents, but they are monitored and destroyed as usual. (I destroyed one of them and deflect attempt to create another by myself when I was in operation).
    - da02 9y ago
      Are there any US agents in the Ukraine? For example, the US funding of the "Azov Battalion": "Yet some have expressed concern that some of this aid has made its way into the hands of neo-Nazi groups, such as the Azov Battalion. Last summer the Daily Beast published an interview by the journalists Will Cathcart and Joseph Epstein in which a member of the Azov battalion spoke about “his battalion’s experience with U.S. trainers and U.S. volunteers quite fondly, even mentioning U.S. volunteers engineers and medics that are still currently assisting them.”" There is also this: "In the course of a little over four minutes, the two American diplomats exchange ideas about who ought to be promoted, and who ought to be demoted, by the United States inside Ukraine, which is suffering through a difficult and even violent political dispute over whether Ukraine will tilt east, toward Russia, or west, toward the United States and Europe. Let it first be noted that it shouldn’t be surprising that Nuland would come off as a would-be imperialist or game player. If anything, she’s long been the neoconservative inside the Obama administration." (https://www.thenation.com/article/not-so-secret-ukraine-phone-call/ https://www.thenation.com/article/not-so-secret-ukraine-phon...)
      - v_lisivka 9y ago
        I was in Civil Azov for a week. I saw no Nazi in Azov regiment. It's pure military unit. Can you point to _any_ evidence? (But exclude information from Russian Federation, please: it's completely OK for Russian invaders to have fear of Ukrainian military and throw dirty words and bold statements at them).
        da02 9y ago
        Are any of these videos below inaccurate? They show Azov logo as a combination of 3 fascist symbols. (Keep in mind, the mainstream media (CNN, FOX, NBC, CBS, PBS, etc) is very anti-Russian and it's only independent media that uses the word "Neo-NAZI". Mainstream media in the US repeats the press releases of the Republicans and Democrats with little investigation into their claims.) * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0vbGj9cO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0vbGj9cO4 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTX6JRpRY_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTX6JRpRY_E * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY&t=262s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY&t=262s
    - primitur 9y ago
      >There is no Nazi in Ukraine. Absolute nonsense. Neo-Nazi'sm has established itself in all of the Balkan and Eastern-European states, and fascism is on the rise. None are immune to its effects, because its growth is a tool of the military-industrial complex in its effort to derive yet more profit from fear, hatred, inhumanity. Yesterday, it was terrorists. Tomorrow its neo-Nazi's and fascists. Either way, we're gonna need weapons to defeat them all, aren't we kids ... https://www.quora.com/Is-Russia-justified-in-its-annexation-of-Crimea https://www.quora.com/Is-Russia-justified-in-its-annexation-... https://charlierose.com/videos/15573 https://charlierose.com/videos/15573
      - v_lisivka 9y ago
        Where I can meet Nazi in Ukraine?
        mmjaa 9y ago
        Proceed directly to the front lines.

by da02 9y ago

v_lisivka 9y ago

I'm from Ukraine. Where I can meet NeoNazi? Ukraine lost about 30 millions in war against them.

da02 9y ago
If any of those articles have inaccuracies, please say so. I never visited the Ukraine and I am not claiming to be an expert. Do you live near Kiev?
- v_lisivka 9y ago
  I'm from Ukraine. I have 360°FOV realtime true color view at Ukraine. You asked me to say about inaccuracies, so here is answer. In short: There is no Nazi in Ukraine. There are some attempts to create nationalistic ultra-right organizations by Russian agents, but they are monitored and destroyed as usual. (I destroyed one of them and deflect attempt to create another by myself when I was in operation).
  - da02 9y ago
    Are there any US agents in the Ukraine? For example, the US funding of the "Azov Battalion": "Yet some have expressed concern that some of this aid has made its way into the hands of neo-Nazi groups, such as the Azov Battalion. Last summer the Daily Beast published an interview by the journalists Will Cathcart and Joseph Epstein in which a member of the Azov battalion spoke about “his battalion’s experience with U.S. trainers and U.S. volunteers quite fondly, even mentioning U.S. volunteers engineers and medics that are still currently assisting them.”" There is also this: "In the course of a little over four minutes, the two American diplomats exchange ideas about who ought to be promoted, and who ought to be demoted, by the United States inside Ukraine, which is suffering through a difficult and even violent political dispute over whether Ukraine will tilt east, toward Russia, or west, toward the United States and Europe. Let it first be noted that it shouldn’t be surprising that Nuland would come off as a would-be imperialist or game player. If anything, she’s long been the neoconservative inside the Obama administration." (https://www.thenation.com/article/not-so-secret-ukraine-phone-call/ https://www.thenation.com/article/not-so-secret-ukraine-phon...)
    - v_lisivka 9y ago
      I was in Civil Azov for a week. I saw no Nazi in Azov regiment. It's pure military unit. Can you point to _any_ evidence? (But exclude information from Russian Federation, please: it's completely OK for Russian invaders to have fear of Ukrainian military and throw dirty words and bold statements at them).
      - da02 9y ago
        Are any of these videos below inaccurate? They show Azov logo as a combination of 3 fascist symbols. (Keep in mind, the mainstream media (CNN, FOX, NBC, CBS, PBS, etc) is very anti-Russian and it's only independent media that uses the word "Neo-NAZI". Mainstream media in the US repeats the press releases of the Republicans and Democrats with little investigation into their claims.) * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0vbGj9cO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf0vbGj9cO4 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTX6JRpRY_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTX6JRpRY_E * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meWM4lChqy4 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY&t=262s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY&t=262s
  - primitur 9y ago
    >There is no Nazi in Ukraine. Absolute nonsense. Neo-Nazi'sm has established itself in all of the Balkan and Eastern-European states, and fascism is on the rise. None are immune to its effects, because its growth is a tool of the military-industrial complex in its effort to derive yet more profit from fear, hatred, inhumanity. Yesterday, it was terrorists. Tomorrow its neo-Nazi's and fascists. Either way, we're gonna need weapons to defeat them all, aren't we kids ... https://www.quora.com/Is-Russia-justified-in-its-annexation-of-Crimea https://www.quora.com/Is-Russia-justified-in-its-annexation-... https://charlierose.com/videos/15573 https://charlierose.com/videos/15573
    - v_lisivka 9y ago
      Where I can meet Nazi in Ukraine?
      - mmjaa 9y ago
        Proceed directly to the front lines.