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The NHS doesn't exist only in London. It covers the UK, which is 87% white (followed by Asians at 7%). A nationwide system in the US would be covering far larg

The NHS doesn't exist only in London. It covers the UK, which is 87% white (followed by Asians at 7%). A nationwide system in the US would be covering far larger and more diverse areas.

DanBC 9y ago
No, "the" NHS does not cover the UK. For one thing there are four seperate NHSs for each nation (Scotland, NI, Wales, and England). It's incorrect to say that the English NHS is a monolithic thing. It isn't. The NHS is regional. It's split into regions by "clinical commissioning groups". There are 32 CCGs in London. These are independent from each other, and from the rest of the UK. http://officelondonccgs.org.uk/what-is-clinical-commissioning/ http://officelondonccgs.org.uk/what-is-clinical-commissionin... > Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) were created following the Health and Social Care Act (2012), replacing Primary Care Trusts on 1 April 2013. They are clinically-led statutory NHS bodies responsible for planning and commissioning health care services in their local area. There are currently 207 CCGs in England.
- moduspol 9y ago
  I’m aware. Per the very first line of its wikipedia page: > The National Health Service (NHS) is the name used for each of the public health services in the United Kingdom – the National Health Service in England, NHS Scotland, NHS Wales, and Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland – as well as a term to describe them collectively. Emphasis on that last part.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    But it makes no sense in the context of your comment. The Scottish NHS has nothing to do with London. But even within only the English NHS, what happens in say Bristol has nothing to do with London. My point stands: London is more diverse than anywhere in the US, and the various NHS CCGs in London are doing okay.
    - moduspol 9y ago
      > The Scottish NHS has nothing to do with London. This is just getting boring as you argue pointlessly over semantics. UK: Covered collectively by the NHS, which has its own branches. England: A part of the UK that has 55 million people and its own branch of the NHS. It is racially 85% white and 7% Asian. London: A big city in England with a population around 9 million. The number of people in London is much smaller than the number of people in all of England, and all of the UK. Yet, England (as shown above) is quite racially homogenous (typically a good indicator for being culturally homogenous). That a single city exists in a sea that is culturally homogenous (that you feel like is "doing okay") does not mean that if all of England or the UK's population were more diverse, there would be no problems. Nobody is arguing that the system would collapse the moment it encounters a single diverse area, so your point is irrelevant.

The NHS doesn't exist only in London. It covers the UK, which is 87% white (followed by Asians at 7%). A nationwide system in the US would be covering far larger and more diverse areas.

DanBC 9y ago

No, "the" NHS does not cover the UK. For one thing there are four seperate NHSs for each nation (Scotland, NI, Wales, and England). It's incorrect to say that the English NHS is a monolithic thing. It isn't. The NHS is regional. It's split into regions by "clinical commissioning groups". There are 32 CCGs in London. These are independent from each other, and from the rest of the UK. http://officelondonccgs.org.uk/what-is-clinical-commissioning/ http://officelondonccgs.org.uk/what-is-clinical-commissionin... > Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) were created following the Health and Social Care Act (2012), replacing Primary Care Trusts on 1 April 2013. They are clinically-led statutory NHS bodies responsible for planning and commissioning health care services in their local area. There are currently 207 CCGs in England.

moduspol 9y ago
I’m aware. Per the very first line of its wikipedia page: > The National Health Service (NHS) is the name used for each of the public health services in the United Kingdom – the National Health Service in England, NHS Scotland, NHS Wales, and Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland – as well as a term to describe them collectively. Emphasis on that last part.
- DanBC 9y ago
  But it makes no sense in the context of your comment. The Scottish NHS has nothing to do with London. But even within only the English NHS, what happens in say Bristol has nothing to do with London. My point stands: London is more diverse than anywhere in the US, and the various NHS CCGs in London are doing okay.
  - moduspol 9y ago
    > The Scottish NHS has nothing to do with London. This is just getting boring as you argue pointlessly over semantics. UK: Covered collectively by the NHS, which has its own branches. England: A part of the UK that has 55 million people and its own branch of the NHS. It is racially 85% white and 7% Asian. London: A big city in England with a population around 9 million. The number of people in London is much smaller than the number of people in all of England, and all of the UK. Yet, England (as shown above) is quite racially homogenous (typically a good indicator for being culturally homogenous). That a single city exists in a sea that is culturally homogenous (that you feel like is "doing okay") does not mean that if all of England or the UK's population were more diverse, there would be no problems. Nobody is arguing that the system would collapse the moment it encounters a single diverse area, so your point is irrelevant.