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I'm sad that the AI acronym has become overused, and has lost its credibility. Back in 2004 even the expression "Expert System" was warily used, and only when a

I'm sad that the AI acronym has become overused, and has lost its credibility. Back in 2004 even the expression "Expert System" was warily used, and only when appropriate. The way this is going we're going to have AI toasters by the end of the year.

stochastic_monk 9y ago
Every new faculty candidate we’ve had this term has mentioned wanting to apply AI or ML to their future research. They’re mostly doing systems, so it makes exactly 0 sense.
jdale27 9y ago
The way this is going we're going to have AI toasters by the end of the year. I'd be surprised if they don't exist already. We already have AI rice cookers: "Zojirushi's top-of-the-line Induction Heating Pressure Rice Cooker & Warmer uses pressurized cooking and AI (Artificial Intelligence) to cook perfect rice." -- from https://www.zojirushi.com/app/product/npnvc https://www.zojirushi.com/app/product/npnvc
- new299 9y ago
  I realize this is somewhat ridiculous, but I actually found their FAQ [0] and the product very interesting. The term "AI" has become somewhat meaningless, but in this case they appear to be adjusting cooking time based on previous results. I'd guess they are probably adjusting a couple of parameters. My basic understanding of how rice cookers work, is that they essentially apply full heating power until all the water has boiled away/been absorbed. They know when this happens by monitoring the temperature, the temperature wont rise above 100 degrees until all the water has boiled away. At this point they shut off. I guess more "intelligent" rice cookers can do a little more than this, maybe if they see that it's consistently taking less time than expected to cook the rice they can heat to a lower temperature at the start to aid water absorption or something? Would be interested in knowing more. [0] https://www.zojirushi.com/app/faq/rice-cookers https://www.zojirushi.com/app/faq/rice-cookers
220V_USKettle 9y ago
Yesterday's fuzzy logic is today's AI?
- posterboy 9y ago
  fuzzy logic is a very ... fuzzy term.
jakecrouch 9y ago
There is kind of a Gresham'a Law with these buzzwords, where if you actually have new and interesting ideas around them, it's much harder to get people to take you seriously.
RobertoG 9y ago
>> "we're going to have AI toasters by the end of the year." I hope not. It seems they can be a real pain in the ass: Red Dwarf toaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec
michaelwsherman 9y ago
AI in toasters is better than many use cases being considered or publicized. I would welcome a toaster that let me say "too burnt" or "too raw" or "just right" after each toasting, adjusted the cooking time and temperature accordingly, and generalized well to new kinds of bread and such.

stochastic_monk 9y ago

Every new faculty candidate we’ve had this term has mentioned wanting to apply AI or ML to their future research. They’re mostly doing systems, so it makes exactly 0 sense.

jdale27 9y ago

The way this is going we're going to have AI toasters by the end of the year. I'd be surprised if they don't exist already. We already have AI rice cookers: "Zojirushi's top-of-the-line Induction Heating Pressure Rice Cooker & Warmer uses pressurized cooking and AI (Artificial Intelligence) to cook perfect rice." -- from https://www.zojirushi.com/app/product/npnvc https://www.zojirushi.com/app/product/npnvc

new299 9y ago
I realize this is somewhat ridiculous, but I actually found their FAQ [0] and the product very interesting. The term "AI" has become somewhat meaningless, but in this case they appear to be adjusting cooking time based on previous results. I'd guess they are probably adjusting a couple of parameters. My basic understanding of how rice cookers work, is that they essentially apply full heating power until all the water has boiled away/been absorbed. They know when this happens by monitoring the temperature, the temperature wont rise above 100 degrees until all the water has boiled away. At this point they shut off. I guess more "intelligent" rice cookers can do a little more than this, maybe if they see that it's consistently taking less time than expected to cook the rice they can heat to a lower temperature at the start to aid water absorption or something? Would be interested in knowing more. [0] https://www.zojirushi.com/app/faq/rice-cookers https://www.zojirushi.com/app/faq/rice-cookers

220V_USKettle 9y ago

Yesterday's fuzzy logic is today's AI?

posterboy 9y ago
fuzzy logic is a very ... fuzzy term.

jakecrouch 9y ago

There is kind of a Gresham'a Law with these buzzwords, where if you actually have new and interesting ideas around them, it's much harder to get people to take you seriously.

RobertoG 9y ago

>> "we're going to have AI toasters by the end of the year." I hope not. It seems they can be a real pain in the ass: Red Dwarf toaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec

michaelwsherman 9y ago

AI in toasters is better than many use cases being considered or publicized. I would welcome a toaster that let me say "too burnt" or "too raw" or "just right" after each toasting, adjusted the cooking time and temperature accordingly, and generalized well to new kinds of bread and such.