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I also study Permaculture, which is a science of study of the environment. There is a paradox discussed in Permaculture: “The problem becomes the solution.” Ap

I also study Permaculture, which is a science of study of the environment. There is a paradox discussed in Permaculture: “The problem becomes the solution.” Applying that to the population numbers, we may actually not have /enough/ people. The problem of too many people becomes the solution: Get enough people acting rightly and many other problems get solved. Some Permaculturists believe the earth has the capacity for fifty billion people; it’s just that current resources are so poorly managed. We may not have enough people to solve so many of the world's pressing problems. The alternative is to treat people like weeds. But we need a path of love, not fear.

kbd 9y ago
Fwiw, I didn't mean to imply that my wish that people stop making more people was due to fears of overpopulation. (We have so much empty space left! And new technologies to discover, and so on.) Rather, it's based on my own desire to not exist.
- SlowBro 9y ago
  Oh, that was unexpected. The objections I’ve heard thus far have been about overpopulation. Tell me more about that.
  - kbd 9y ago
    It's ok, other powers at work here. The lady who I likely would be married to had I wanted children was into permaculture, so I take the unlikely turn of conversation as a little dig from Him. > Tell me more about that. Groaning at discussing personal stuff on HN, but here goes: I don't enjoy life or find it rewarding. I'd likely have killed myself a long time ago but don't because my life is not my own (bought with a price and so on). So how could I possibly want to create more people? I have many philosophical arguments against creating children as well, such as violating the agency of the unborn by forcing them into existence, or considering the generations of suffering and death (and damnation of some?) caused by creating children, who will have more children, ad infinitum. But none of that matters because God has a plan and it'll all make sense someday (after I die). So I (im?)patiently await that day.
    - SlowBro 9y ago
      Feel free to ping me offline if you want to continue the conversation. You can even edit your comment and remove the personal stuff if you want :-) Address: Slow Bro 904 at Gmail.
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kbd 9y ago

Fwiw, I didn't mean to imply that my wish that people stop making more people was due to fears of overpopulation. (We have so much empty space left! And new technologies to discover, and so on.) Rather, it's based on my own desire to not exist.

SlowBro 9y ago
Oh, that was unexpected. The objections I’ve heard thus far have been about overpopulation. Tell me more about that.
- kbd 9y ago
  It's ok, other powers at work here. The lady who I likely would be married to had I wanted children was into permaculture, so I take the unlikely turn of conversation as a little dig from Him. > Tell me more about that. Groaning at discussing personal stuff on HN, but here goes: I don't enjoy life or find it rewarding. I'd likely have killed myself a long time ago but don't because my life is not my own (bought with a price and so on). So how could I possibly want to create more people? I have many philosophical arguments against creating children as well, such as violating the agency of the unborn by forcing them into existence, or considering the generations of suffering and death (and damnation of some?) caused by creating children, who will have more children, ad infinitum. But none of that matters because God has a plan and it'll all make sense someday (after I die). So I (im?)patiently await that day.
  - SlowBro 9y ago
    Feel free to ping me offline if you want to continue the conversation. You can even edit your comment and remove the personal stuff if you want :-) Address: Slow Bro 904 at Gmail.

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