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Australia is deeply involved in this. China are actively trying to control conversation with Chinese students and immigrants here. The govt has literally bought

Australia is deeply involved in this. China are actively trying to control conversation with Chinese students and immigrants here. The govt has literally bought all Chinese language press and semi regularly run full page 'articles' in the major press. They have been caught out several time pressuring universities and placing disruptive people in lectures that discuss areas they don't want. I believed agents recently were found to have broken into lectures houses. Its a delicate situation and hopefully the government will not be afraid to deal with it, whilst not turning it into a xenophobic support point.

robtaylor 9y ago
Sources?
- John_KZ 9y ago
  Yeah, some of that sounds way too far-fetched.
  - fnulnu 9y ago
    The various scandals have been reported on quite a bit by Australian news stations
- doctorstupid 9y ago
  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-04/australian-sovereignty-under-threat-from-chinese-influence/8583832 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-04/australian-sovereignty...
malchow 9y ago
See: https://www.ft.com/content/7ac14e70-ded8-11e7-a8a4-0a1e63a52f9c https://www.ft.com/content/7ac14e70-ded8-11e7-a8a4-0a1e63a52...
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  Non-paywalled: http://archive.is/Rq7FP http://archive.is/Rq7FP
mistermann 9y ago
The Canadian federal government seems to have been compromised as well, there is significant amounts of serious financial and drug crimes occurring in Canada that is very clearly disproportionately (to put it nicely) associated with immigrants from mainland China, newspapers are regularly reporting on it, there are anecdotal stories all over the place, but there's no "evidence" because law enforcement will not touch them, and the Canada Revenue Agency will not audit them. It is obvious something very unusual is going on behind the scenes. I'd love to know what sorts of things are going on in Africa. It's nice to see the mainstream finally starting to wake up from their long slumber though, perhaps there's hope yet.
- NotSammyHagar 9y ago
  Why would the Canadian govt. give special treatment to Chinese people? I think there's just not clear evidence. Look at the endless talk of Chinese people running up the prices of homes in Vancouver, that gets tons of attention, but it's generally legal. The crimes you suggest are much different than that.
  - mistermann 9y ago
    Money laundering and immigration fraud are absolutely not legal, but they are absolutely not punished in Canada when committed by mainland Chinese. That is a fact, not an opinion.
surfmike 9y ago
When you say Australia is involved in this, do you mean the Australian govt is involved or just that China is doing this on Australian soil? I don't understand from your comment whether you're referring to the Australian govt or the Chinese government as having bought all the press. And who "they" are when referring to disrupting lectures.
- ajdlinux 9y ago
  It's the latter.
discordance 9y ago
Yes, Australia has even had politicians resign due to revealed influence China has had over them: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-dastyari-quits-labor-senator-china-connections https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-d...

robtaylor 9y ago

Sources?

John_KZ 9y ago
Yeah, some of that sounds way too far-fetched.
- fnulnu 9y ago
  The various scandals have been reported on quite a bit by Australian news stations
doctorstupid 9y ago
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-04/australian-sovereignty-under-threat-from-chinese-influence/8583832 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-04/australian-sovereignty...

malchow 9y ago

See: https://www.ft.com/content/7ac14e70-ded8-11e7-a8a4-0a1e63a52f9c https://www.ft.com/content/7ac14e70-ded8-11e7-a8a4-0a1e63a52...

sillysaurus3 9y ago
Non-paywalled: http://archive.is/Rq7FP http://archive.is/Rq7FP

mistermann 9y ago

The Canadian federal government seems to have been compromised as well, there is significant amounts of serious financial and drug crimes occurring in Canada that is very clearly disproportionately (to put it nicely) associated with immigrants from mainland China, newspapers are regularly reporting on it, there are anecdotal stories all over the place, but there's no "evidence" because law enforcement will not touch them, and the Canada Revenue Agency will not audit them. It is obvious something very unusual is going on behind the scenes. I'd love to know what sorts of things are going on in Africa. It's nice to see the mainstream finally starting to wake up from their long slumber though, perhaps there's hope yet.

NotSammyHagar 9y ago
Why would the Canadian govt. give special treatment to Chinese people? I think there's just not clear evidence. Look at the endless talk of Chinese people running up the prices of homes in Vancouver, that gets tons of attention, but it's generally legal. The crimes you suggest are much different than that.
- mistermann 9y ago
  Money laundering and immigration fraud are absolutely not legal, but they are absolutely not punished in Canada when committed by mainland Chinese. That is a fact, not an opinion.

surfmike 9y ago

When you say Australia is involved in this, do you mean the Australian govt is involved or just that China is doing this on Australian soil? I don't understand from your comment whether you're referring to the Australian govt or the Chinese government as having bought all the press. And who "they" are when referring to disrupting lectures.

ajdlinux 9y ago
It's the latter.

discordance 9y ago

Yes, Australia has even had politicians resign due to revealed influence China has had over them: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-dastyari-quits-labor-senator-china-connections https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-d...