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How many gamers do you think are going to give up Steam and go to the Windows Store? Similarly, how many Xbox One developers are going to bother with UWP, eith

How many gamers do you think are going to give up Steam and go to the Windows Store? Similarly, how many Xbox One developers are going to bother with UWP, either? Given UWP allows the use of Win32 because nobody would use it if it didn't, it seems pretty likely that if games start using Vulkan then UWP will end up with Vulkan, too. Microsoft Store needs games more than games need UWP.

pjmlp 9y ago
UWP makes use of Win32 as implementation detail, all the Win32 APIs considered legacy are not supported. "This subset of APIs was chosen to support key scenarios for Windows Runtime apps that were not already covered by the Windows Runtime, HTML/CSS, or other supported languages or standards. The Windows App Certification Kit ensures that your app uses only this subset of the Win32 and COM API." https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br205757.aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br2057... > Similarly, how many Xbox One developers are going to bother with UWP, either? Probably zero, but they won't bother with Vulkan also. If they are targeting something else besides the XBox, they already have a portable game engine in place, or as typical in the games industry, contracts in place with companies specialized in doing game ports. Win32 is legacy, the Desktop Bridge sessions on channel 9 always show how easy it is to import apps into the store and slowly convert them into UWP ones. The next release of Windows will even add support for command line UWP apps, and Office 2016 is only available via the store on Windows 10. As for Steam vs Windows Store, not everyone is on Steam and the Store also allows for XBox games, which has a much bigger portfolio. Plus you are forgetting the scenario where Apple or Microsoft, might eventually just buy Valve.
- andybak 9y ago
  Don't forget Valve is privately owned so it's not a simple acquisition target.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    I know that, there are many ways of buying a company.
bitwize 9y ago
> How many gamers do you think are going to give up Steam and go to the Windows Store? If Microsoft buys Valve -- a move they're already rumored to be considering -- and shutters Steam, all of them.
- kllrnohj 9y ago
  Doesn't really matter what Microsoft wants. Valve's an extremely profitable private company. They need to be for sale for Microsoft to buy them, and Gabe doesn't seem to be the selling type.

pjmlp 9y ago

UWP makes use of Win32 as implementation detail, all the Win32 APIs considered legacy are not supported. "This subset of APIs was chosen to support key scenarios for Windows Runtime apps that were not already covered by the Windows Runtime, HTML/CSS, or other supported languages or standards. The Windows App Certification Kit ensures that your app uses only this subset of the Win32 and COM API." https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br205757.aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br2057... > Similarly, how many Xbox One developers are going to bother with UWP, either? Probably zero, but they won't bother with Vulkan also. If they are targeting something else besides the XBox, they already have a portable game engine in place, or as typical in the games industry, contracts in place with companies specialized in doing game ports. Win32 is legacy, the Desktop Bridge sessions on channel 9 always show how easy it is to import apps into the store and slowly convert them into UWP ones. The next release of Windows will even add support for command line UWP apps, and Office 2016 is only available via the store on Windows 10. As for Steam vs Windows Store, not everyone is on Steam and the Store also allows for XBox games, which has a much bigger portfolio. Plus you are forgetting the scenario where Apple or Microsoft, might eventually just buy Valve.

andybak 9y ago
Don't forget Valve is privately owned so it's not a simple acquisition target.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  I know that, there are many ways of buying a company.

bitwize 9y ago

> How many gamers do you think are going to give up Steam and go to the Windows Store? If Microsoft buys Valve -- a move they're already rumored to be considering -- and shutters Steam, all of them.

kllrnohj 9y ago
Doesn't really matter what Microsoft wants. Valve's an extremely profitable private company. They need to be for sale for Microsoft to buy them, and Gabe doesn't seem to be the selling type.