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What I don't understand is why someone would go to the problems of essentially spending a lot of time breaking their Firefox installation instead of using Tor d

What I don't understand is why someone would go to the problems of essentially spending a lot of time breaking their Firefox installation instead of using Tor directly when they care about privacy. Most of the tweaks boil down to turning Firefox defaults into Tor defaults, but without the benefit of actual anonymity, unless you're going to go ahead and install and trust the VPN provider which you also need. The majority of these settings aren't the default because they cause significant site breakage (uBlock is maybe the exception). If they could have been enabled by default, they would have. Mozilla has been taking gradual steps in that direction, and backed off/reverted a few times when too much stuff broke. Use Tor Browser. If a site breaks, at least you'll know why, and you have the choice of whether it warrants lowering your privacy.

syshum 9y ago
>>Mozilla has been taking gradual steps in that direction I disagree with this.. I do not see Mozilla taking any steps toward privacy at all, infact in many ways they are taking steps AWAY from privacy with many of their recent actions and blunders. From their use of opt-out rather than opt-in for various privacy invading features, their pushing adware to all users via what was suppose to be a QA/Feedback feature, their purchasing and invest in certain companies... No the Mozilla Foundation from the 90's is long dead, it has been replaced by the Mozilla Corporation, which is really no different than the Google Corporation or the Microsoft Corporation
- a_imho 9y ago
  Indeed, Moz://a revenue stream is at odds with privacy.
- bzbarsky 9y ago
  > I do not see Mozilla taking any steps toward privacy at all https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1260929&hide_resolved=0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=12609... are some concrete steps being taken. Or the containers work. Or the tracking protection work. If you're not seeing those, it's because you're not looking.
Vinnl 9y ago
Because if you don't use Tor browser correctly, you might actually be leaking some of your private data.
kradeelav 9y ago
Privacy is a spectrum, and not all of us have the patience/time to deal with Tor. I consider myself somewhat tech-fluent (not in the industry) and privacy-oriented, but there's a happy medium of installing FF on my dayjob computer and loading it up with ublock Origin/privacy badger/etc versus some of the other suggestions. I'm OK with the occasional day-to-day leak if most of the footprint can be obscured.

syshum 9y ago

>>Mozilla has been taking gradual steps in that direction I disagree with this.. I do not see Mozilla taking any steps toward privacy at all, infact in many ways they are taking steps AWAY from privacy with many of their recent actions and blunders. From their use of opt-out rather than opt-in for various privacy invading features, their pushing adware to all users via what was suppose to be a QA/Feedback feature, their purchasing and invest in certain companies... No the Mozilla Foundation from the 90's is long dead, it has been replaced by the Mozilla Corporation, which is really no different than the Google Corporation or the Microsoft Corporation

a_imho 9y ago
Indeed, Moz://a revenue stream is at odds with privacy.
bzbarsky 9y ago
> I do not see Mozilla taking any steps toward privacy at all https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1260929&hide_resolved=0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=12609... are some concrete steps being taken. Or the containers work. Or the tracking protection work. If you're not seeing those, it's because you're not looking.

Vinnl 9y ago

Because if you don't use Tor browser correctly, you might actually be leaking some of your private data.

kradeelav 9y ago

Privacy is a spectrum, and not all of us have the patience/time to deal with Tor. I consider myself somewhat tech-fluent (not in the industry) and privacy-oriented, but there's a happy medium of installing FF on my dayjob computer and loading it up with ublock Origin/privacy badger/etc versus some of the other suggestions. I'm OK with the occasional day-to-day leak if most of the footprint can be obscured.