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> Just like Middle Eastern countries work best (as in, remain relatively stable) under military dictatorships This is extremely easy to say after any attempts
by wz1000 9y ago
> Just like Middle Eastern countries work best (as in, remain relatively stable) under military dictatorships
This is extremely easy to say after any attempts at democracy in the middle east(Nasser and the Nasserites, Mossadegh, and now Rojava) are crushed by foreign powers and military dictatorships are actively supported since they are easier to control.
- mmjaa 9y agoI concur - nation states under constant attack from imperial aggressors survive better under military dictatorships, precisely because that is what is required to survive during times of war. If the West would leave the Middle East alone for a decade, it is highly likely that we'd see a much different picture. Its very difficult to develop free, social, democratic society when the institutions which support that development are perpetually bombed into oblivion: universities, hospitals, infrastructure. Under times of intense duress, all humans survive better under military dictatorships. Its not just the Middle East. Not having had their infrastructure destroyed by outside forces, there isn't a single modern western democracy that we can use as a model to demonstrate this fact. If we stop bombing the Middle East, they'll have a chance to develop institutions which allow for their progress. Its just we, in the West, don't want to ever allow that to occur; it would interrupt our own development as Military-Industrial oligarchies.
- ekianjo 9y ago> it is highly likely that we'd see a much different picture Highly unlikely since the Middle East is composed of hundred of tribes and other populations like the Kurds who want nothing to do with each others and will enter conflict whenever appropriate.
- cbayram 9y agoYou are implying that their attempts at defense and self-preservation against violent tyranny and genocide is a conscious collective choice of the people for more conflict rather than a reaction to their inhumane circumstances under such conditions. Everyone is capable of resisting arrest if you bend their arm back at a certain angle. Kurds have been continuously in that existential conflict long before the gulf wars. Their identity has been systemically under attack by brutal military dictatorships and nationalism for over a century now. Self-determination, survival and freedom from tyranny has always been their motivation. One does not have the option to choose when homicide knocks on one's front door. Kurds, most people of the Middle East and humanity in general want peaceful coexistence, progress, freedom and live productive lives. However, inorganic oscillations due to oppressive force and might wreak havoc in reaching any sustainable equilibrium.
- tonyedgecombe 9y agoWe leave Saudi Arabia alone and that has hardly turned into a democratic beacon. I really don't understand all this self flagellation in the West about the Middle East, we got drawn into these places because they are basket cases.
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- SZJX 9y agoYou do realize that Saudi is the biggest ally of the US in the region and it starts all the wars/carries on its domestic affairs however it pleases, with US backing, right?
- sumedh 9y ago> Not having had their infrastructure destroyed by outside forces, Different Islamic sects don't get along so well either.