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There's way more to software engineering than GitHub. Example: every company that hosts their own code repositories. The TIOBE index, while not entirely accura

There's way more to software engineering than GitHub. Example: every company that hosts their own code repositories. The TIOBE index, while not entirely accurate either, does reflect usage by a much more broad set of engineers.

hungerstrike 9y ago
Here's another survey that shows what kinds of languages programmers actually want to use and JS tops the list while C comes in below even Bash/Shell programming and PHP.
hungerstrike 9y ago
Incorrect. TIOBE shows you what companies are making their employees do. Github numbers show you what programmers actually want to do. However, looking at job ads these days I hardly see any for C relative to JavaScript.
- dblotsky 9y ago
  My point was that TIOBE is simply more all-encompassing than GitHut. It gives you a clearer picture of the most searched programming languages, which includes both GitHub as well as non-GitHub stats. Also, GitHut counts repositories, not lines of code. Not sure which of C or JS has more lines of code being written every year, but my guess is that it's C (Java might have more than both though).
  - hungerstrike 9y ago
    Yes and my point is that GitHub numbers show you a much better picture of programming languages that programmers actually want to use. Are we just going to go back and forth saying the same thing over and over though at this point?
    - dblotsky 9y ago
      Nah, then it's pretty simple. My rebuttal is that I think "programming languages that programmers actually want to use" (besides still being a debatable claim) is an insignificant metric. The industry doesn't pay for what you want to use.
      - hungerstrike 9y ago
        When you are responding to a comment that says that programmers don’t want to use C... K, thx bye now.
        dblotsky 9y ago
        I think the comment was that JS is more popular than C. ;)
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Yes, popular = the thing people want to use. And it was my comment and it’s quite obvious upon reading again, that my implication is very clear. That's why github numbers alone are better because it shows what programmers actually want to use. It's the same thing I've been saying to you for our last 20 interactions here. But I'll keep going because I'm not going to let you get the last word. SO let's keep going I guess.
        dblotsky 9y ago
        The GitHut numbers show repository count. I'm sure there all sorts of small JS repos with 50 lines of code, boosting project porfolios of people everywhere. Of course lines of code also don't mean something good: some languages are a bit more verbose than others. The TIOBE index shows what programmers search for, which is likely unbiased by LoC or repository count. My goal really is to help show you that JS is popular, but not nearly as widely used (or desired) as people make it out to be. As uncool as Java and C are, they still dominate software development. If you're dead-set on your position however, and don't wish to believe those data, then by all means let's disagree. :)

hungerstrike 9y ago

Here's another survey that shows what kinds of languages programmers actually want to use and JS tops the list while C comes in below even Bash/Shell programming and PHP.

hungerstrike 9y ago

Incorrect. TIOBE shows you what companies are making their employees do. Github numbers show you what programmers actually want to do. However, looking at job ads these days I hardly see any for C relative to JavaScript.

dblotsky 9y ago
My point was that TIOBE is simply more all-encompassing than GitHut. It gives you a clearer picture of the most searched programming languages, which includes both GitHub as well as non-GitHub stats. Also, GitHut counts repositories, not lines of code. Not sure which of C or JS has more lines of code being written every year, but my guess is that it's C (Java might have more than both though).
- hungerstrike 9y ago
  Yes and my point is that GitHub numbers show you a much better picture of programming languages that programmers actually want to use. Are we just going to go back and forth saying the same thing over and over though at this point?
  - dblotsky 9y ago
    Nah, then it's pretty simple. My rebuttal is that I think "programming languages that programmers actually want to use" (besides still being a debatable claim) is an insignificant metric. The industry doesn't pay for what you want to use.
    - hungerstrike 9y ago
      When you are responding to a comment that says that programmers don’t want to use C... K, thx bye now.
      - dblotsky 9y ago
        I think the comment was that JS is more popular than C. ;)
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Yes, popular = the thing people want to use. And it was my comment and it’s quite obvious upon reading again, that my implication is very clear. That's why github numbers alone are better because it shows what programmers actually want to use. It's the same thing I've been saying to you for our last 20 interactions here. But I'll keep going because I'm not going to let you get the last word. SO let's keep going I guess.
        dblotsky 9y ago
        The GitHut numbers show repository count. I'm sure there all sorts of small JS repos with 50 lines of code, boosting project porfolios of people everywhere. Of course lines of code also don't mean something good: some languages are a bit more verbose than others. The TIOBE index shows what programmers search for, which is likely unbiased by LoC or repository count. My goal really is to help show you that JS is popular, but not nearly as widely used (or desired) as people make it out to be. As uncool as Java and C are, they still dominate software development. If you're dead-set on your position however, and don't wish to believe those data, then by all means let's disagree. :)