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Matters of trust and privacy. I want to be able to change/cancel services without wondering if there's some forgotten dependency. Often I try something out fi

Matters of trust and privacy. I want to be able to change/cancel services without wondering if there's some forgotten dependency. Often I try something out first to see if it's worth the trouble. I don't want to give out some other account info for something I may not even be bothered using. I can see offering, as an option, the use of twitter/facebook/gmail whatever, but not to the exclusion of a standalone account. Especially since, as you say, it's easy to add.

steveklabnik 16y ago
Gotcha. You do know that with Twitter, you can go in and specifically revoke an app's access to your account? > Often I try something out first to see if it's worth the trouble. It's really interesting that we use the same logic to justify totally different outcomes. > but not to the exclusion of a standalone account. To provide some context, I'd like to keep things as simple as possible, in general. Even with technical people, it's easy to get confused with multiple login options. Every time I go to Quora, something in my brain remembers that I used Facebook to sign up, so I click that button on the home page, and get a message about how I'm already signed up, I need to actually log in with my email/password via the other form. Every time.
- icey 16y ago
  It's crazy; just about every web application in existence requires a login and this still isn't a solved problem. I wonder why Clickpass hasn't gotten more traction.
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    > I wonder why Clickpass hasn't gotten more traction. Clickpass? (of course, I can Google. Just making a point. Seems cool, though.) I'd say OpenId was the most recent attempt at making this really work, and failed.
    - icey 16y ago
      Sorry, http://www.clickpass.com/ http://www.clickpass.com/ Although, I suppose that's indicative of part of Clickpass' adoption problem - their functionality is pretty prominent right on the HN login / signup page and many people here still don't know who they are.
- jamesbritt 16y ago
  "You do know that with Twitter, you can go in and specifically revoke an app's access to your account?" Yes, I do. Do I do that after app has done something stupid under my account? The bigger point for me is this: Suppose I decide I just don't care anymore for Twitter (or, much more likely, Facebook) and kill my account. Later , I realize I can't sign on to SomeApp.com because I forgot I had it hooked to the service I just dropped. I prefer apps that let me use them with no user account, offer more services if I provide a verified E-mail address, and offer even more if I opt in to sharing my Twitter/Facebook/whatever info. If a site is giving people too much to think about when signing in it's just lazy UX design.

steveklabnik 16y ago

Gotcha. You do know that with Twitter, you can go in and specifically revoke an app's access to your account? > Often I try something out first to see if it's worth the trouble. It's really interesting that we use the same logic to justify totally different outcomes. > but not to the exclusion of a standalone account. To provide some context, I'd like to keep things as simple as possible, in general. Even with technical people, it's easy to get confused with multiple login options. Every time I go to Quora, something in my brain remembers that I used Facebook to sign up, so I click that button on the home page, and get a message about how I'm already signed up, I need to actually log in with my email/password via the other form. Every time.

icey 16y ago
It's crazy; just about every web application in existence requires a login and this still isn't a solved problem. I wonder why Clickpass hasn't gotten more traction.
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  > I wonder why Clickpass hasn't gotten more traction. Clickpass? (of course, I can Google. Just making a point. Seems cool, though.) I'd say OpenId was the most recent attempt at making this really work, and failed.
  - icey 16y ago
    Sorry, http://www.clickpass.com/ http://www.clickpass.com/ Although, I suppose that's indicative of part of Clickpass' adoption problem - their functionality is pretty prominent right on the HN login / signup page and many people here still don't know who they are.
jamesbritt 16y ago
"You do know that with Twitter, you can go in and specifically revoke an app's access to your account?" Yes, I do. Do I do that after app has done something stupid under my account? The bigger point for me is this: Suppose I decide I just don't care anymore for Twitter (or, much more likely, Facebook) and kill my account. Later , I realize I can't sign on to SomeApp.com because I forgot I had it hooked to the service I just dropped. I prefer apps that let me use them with no user account, offer more services if I provide a verified E-mail address, and offer even more if I opt in to sharing my Twitter/Facebook/whatever info. If a site is giving people too much to think about when signing in it's just lazy UX design.