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What I'd really love a company to do is offer a service where I can pay them to look for a job for me - I work 50+ hour weeks now, I dont have the time to go jo
by Aloha 9y ago
What I'd really love a company to do is offer a service where I can pay them to look for a job for me - I work 50+ hour weeks now, I dont have the time to go job hunting, I'd be nice if I could find a recruitment firm, who would work for me.
- tibbetts 9y agoA good independent recruiter will do this. Many senior engineers I know maintain a relationship with a couple of recruiters who know what kind of startups they like and only bring them compelling offers. The recruiter can expect a multi-decade relationship with the engineer and thus has reasonable incentive to treat them well. They will even sometimes place these engineers commission-free when they know it is the right thing. You can also get into this relationship with certain VCs.
- Aloha 9y agoFinding one of those is the hard part - I work mostly in Telecom - so I'm not looking at companies for the most part that are VC funded (or even in the valley)
- tibbetts 9y agoAsk current and former coworkers or ask former bosses or former HR what recruiters they like working with.
- fecak 9y agoFormer indy recruiter here, and this is good advice. The line between "agent" and "recruiter" is blurry in cases of skilled and highly-ethical recruiters, and I'd toyed with changing my model to an agent approach. The issue is that job seekers don't want to pay someone anywhere near what a hiring company pays as a recruiting fee.
- Aloha 9y agoI would quite happily pay someone 1-5% of the wage of the position, if I could find someone to do the work for me. I dont know how to find the people to do that - its not in my wheelhouse.
- eropple 9y agoRecruiters, on the other hand, are paid up to 20% or so of the position's salary to get you to take it. You're not paying enough.
- icebraining 9y agoSorry, when you two are speaking about percentages, is that of the annual salary?
- joncrocks 9y agoThat's what I understand. A one-off fee of the percentage of the annual salary.
- fecak 9y agoYes, to confirm a recruiter's fee is typically anywhere from 15-25% of employee's first year annual salary. So that 150K engineer in NYC earns an independent recruiter (working for herself/himself) anywhere from 22-37K. Now it's easy to see why some recruiters sometimes act the way they act. People are unlikely to lie just to earn a small fee, but when the numbers get big, the incentive changes.
- Aloha 9y agoSearching for the needle is a hell of a lot harder than searching for the haystack. I think 1-5% is fair to find a job for me - 20% seems reasonable to find a person to take a job.
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