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This starts with the [diversity pledge](http://thehill.com/policy/technology/284517-white-house-pressures-30-tech-companies-to-sign-diversity-pledge http://theh

This starts with the [diversity pledge](http://thehill.com/policy/technology/284517-white-house-pressures-30-tech-companies-to-sign-diversity-pledge http://thehill.com/policy/technology/284517-white-house-pres...) pushed by Obama administration, including companies like Airbnb, Box, GitHub, GoDaddy, Intel, Lyft, Medium. No wonder many Asians sigh relief when Clinton failed her presidency, or she surely would have pushed for more.

spicymaki 9y ago
That is not accurate according to 2016 votes: http://aaldef.org/TheAsianAmericanVote2016-AALDEF.pdf http://aaldef.org/TheAsianAmericanVote2016-AALDEF.pdf 79% of Asians voted for Clinton.
- protomyth 9y ago
  Out of curiosity, how did they get the cast ballots with the voters race to do their count? Polling, particularly in the last election, was atrocious.
  - cjhopman 9y ago
    IIRC, exit polling was just fine.
  - spicymaki 9y ago
    How well do you suspect Trump’s anti-immigration and nationalist push play with the Asian community? Making it difficult for families to immigrate together via family visa and reducing work visas does not play well. The polling methodology is present in the report I posted.
    - alanlovestea 9y ago
      don't be fooled by the media. Trump supports legal immigration and is allocating more quota to legal immigrants. As a result, tons of legal immigrants support Trump.
      - dragonwriter 9y ago
        > Trump supports legal immigration and is allocating more quota to legal immigrants Trump has proposed eliminating many of the major existing categories of legal immigration in the core, family-owned action based system. He's proposed replacing the eliminated categories with a small number of renewable non-immigrant (no path to citizenship or work permission) visas for parents of US citizens. He's proposed no concrete increase in total permanent allocation in the remaining categories, though he's talked about cancelling the diversity visa lottery and reallocating the quota used there to help clear backlogs elsewhere.
        meetapoorvgupta 9y ago
        He has also expressed a strong desire to revamp the permanent residence visa allocation process to use an individual-focused, merit-based system that prefers applicants with a high income. If I had to choose one, I'd prefer more employment visas over family visas and definitely diversity visas.
        spicymaki 9y ago
        Don't you find it strange that a nationalist like Trump would advocate for visas for high skilled foreigner which directly competes with citizens for high paying prestigious jobs? Why would a high skilled foreigner with a spouse or children want to emigrate to the US without a family visa?
        meetapoorvgupta 9y ago
        Young, unmarried individuals will be able to immigrate. Applicants can also bring in their spouses if they are educated and can are fluent in English. It appeases his nationalist base because it would not give visas to immigrants in low-paid jobs. Most of those voters were never in contention for the high-paying tech jobs anyway. They have no reason to care too much about them. Overall immigration will decrease.
  - cyphar 9y ago
    Exit polls are very different from opinion polls, it doesn't make sense to conflate the two.
- throwaway1584 9y ago
  Anecdotally I only knew two Trump voters in the Bay Area. One is Chinese and the other Indian. Polling was not great in the last election, maybe because pollsters can mainly call people with landlines [1] which excludes large pools of people. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/03/12/the-problem-with-modern-polling-in-one-chart/?utm_term=.6a84c6095c41 https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/03/12/t...
  - cyphar 9y ago
    > Polling was not great in the last election Exit polls are different from opinion polls. The surveying techniques are entirely different, and in general exit polls are considered far more accurate than opinion polls -- because you're polling on a concrete question ("who did you vote for a few minutes ago") rather than a less concrete one ("who are you more likely to vote for").
    - dogma1138 9y ago
      Considering how many people were shamed for voting for trump I’m not entirely sure how accurate those exit polls were as most of them predicted a landslide for HRC before the count started.
      - pas 9y ago
        Could you show such exit polls?
- echevil 9y ago
  New Asian immigrants moved to Bay Area for high paying tech jobs have very different views from those that were born in America or have lived here for a long time. Many of the new immigrants have no citizenship yet while the latter are simply much less impacted by these diversity movements overall
- apta 9y ago
  You mean 70% of Asians who voted, voted for her.

spicymaki 9y ago

That is not accurate according to 2016 votes: http://aaldef.org/TheAsianAmericanVote2016-AALDEF.pdf http://aaldef.org/TheAsianAmericanVote2016-AALDEF.pdf 79% of Asians voted for Clinton.

protomyth 9y ago
Out of curiosity, how did they get the cast ballots with the voters race to do their count? Polling, particularly in the last election, was atrocious.
- cjhopman 9y ago
  IIRC, exit polling was just fine.
- spicymaki 9y ago
  How well do you suspect Trump’s anti-immigration and nationalist push play with the Asian community? Making it difficult for families to immigrate together via family visa and reducing work visas does not play well. The polling methodology is present in the report I posted.
  - alanlovestea 9y ago
    don't be fooled by the media. Trump supports legal immigration and is allocating more quota to legal immigrants. As a result, tons of legal immigrants support Trump.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > Trump supports legal immigration and is allocating more quota to legal immigrants Trump has proposed eliminating many of the major existing categories of legal immigration in the core, family-owned action based system. He's proposed replacing the eliminated categories with a small number of renewable non-immigrant (no path to citizenship or work permission) visas for parents of US citizens. He's proposed no concrete increase in total permanent allocation in the remaining categories, though he's talked about cancelling the diversity visa lottery and reallocating the quota used there to help clear backlogs elsewhere.
      - meetapoorvgupta 9y ago
        He has also expressed a strong desire to revamp the permanent residence visa allocation process to use an individual-focused, merit-based system that prefers applicants with a high income. If I had to choose one, I'd prefer more employment visas over family visas and definitely diversity visas.
        spicymaki 9y ago
        Don't you find it strange that a nationalist like Trump would advocate for visas for high skilled foreigner which directly competes with citizens for high paying prestigious jobs? Why would a high skilled foreigner with a spouse or children want to emigrate to the US without a family visa?
        meetapoorvgupta 9y ago
        Young, unmarried individuals will be able to immigrate. Applicants can also bring in their spouses if they are educated and can are fluent in English. It appeases his nationalist base because it would not give visas to immigrants in low-paid jobs. Most of those voters were never in contention for the high-paying tech jobs anyway. They have no reason to care too much about them. Overall immigration will decrease.
- cyphar 9y ago
  Exit polls are very different from opinion polls, it doesn't make sense to conflate the two.
throwaway1584 9y ago
Anecdotally I only knew two Trump voters in the Bay Area. One is Chinese and the other Indian. Polling was not great in the last election, maybe because pollsters can mainly call people with landlines [1] which excludes large pools of people. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/03/12/the-problem-with-modern-polling-in-one-chart/?utm_term=.6a84c6095c41 https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/03/12/t...
- cyphar 9y ago
  > Polling was not great in the last election Exit polls are different from opinion polls. The surveying techniques are entirely different, and in general exit polls are considered far more accurate than opinion polls -- because you're polling on a concrete question ("who did you vote for a few minutes ago") rather than a less concrete one ("who are you more likely to vote for").
  - dogma1138 9y ago
    Considering how many people were shamed for voting for trump I’m not entirely sure how accurate those exit polls were as most of them predicted a landslide for HRC before the count started.
    - pas 9y ago
      Could you show such exit polls?
echevil 9y ago
New Asian immigrants moved to Bay Area for high paying tech jobs have very different views from those that were born in America or have lived here for a long time. Many of the new immigrants have no citizenship yet while the latter are simply much less impacted by these diversity movements overall
apta 9y ago
You mean 70% of Asians who voted, voted for her.