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ML based welfare eligibility screening seems a few short steps from Kafka. I'm not sure if that's what they were doing, but it seems like something that somebod

ML based welfare eligibility screening seems a few short steps from Kafka. I'm not sure if that's what they were doing, but it seems like something that somebody would think is a great idea.

samstave 9y ago
The ONLY person who would think all that is a good idea are the engineers who were able to update their linkedin with "implemented ML based solution to replace human resources with computer resources to streamline the welfare system for the state of X"
- theossuary 9y ago
  I don't think any engineer would consider that a good idea. But if somebody tells you that's what you're working on for the next few years, make lemonade I guess.
  - wolco 9y ago
    Still sounds like fun to build.
- paulie_a 9y ago
  LinkedIn is basically the epitome of HR pointlessness. so that would probably be a bullet point to not include
- fphhotchips 9y ago
  That's not at all true. The only engineers who would think all that is a good idea are those who could update their LinkedIn. The salespeople and non-technical leadership though? They're going to love the idea of ML (read: magic) based solutions to replace human resources with computer resources to streamline their welfare systems.
gowld 9y ago
The quoted paragraph isn't ML, it's telecommunications.
nraynaud 9y ago
In France a few years ago I registered for unemployment benefits (that was quite a quest), I received a letter from the electricity utility telling me that I qualified for a reduced price. Later when I found a job, they put back the normal price.
Spooky23 9y ago
States were successful in moving Medicaid enrollment to outsourced providers. THis was probably seen as building on that theme. I think IBM bought an Irish company that did similar work in the UK, so it probably looked achievable, and a potential Cash cow for other states. (Accenture was able to sell child welfare solutions at great profit in the 90s) Its a great business as it generates alotmof complimentary sales and services.
- jessaustin 9y ago
  Accenture was able to sell child welfare solutions at great profit in the 90s In the 90s that would have been Andersen Consulting rather than Accenture. Although having worked with them at the time and found them worse in every way than IBM is described in this thread, I wouldn't be surprised to learn they profited at the expense of poor children.

ML based welfare eligibility screening seems a few short steps from Kafka. I'm not sure if that's what they were doing, but it seems like something that somebody would think is a great idea.

samstave 9y ago

The ONLY person who would think all that is a good idea are the engineers who were able to update their linkedin with "implemented ML based solution to replace human resources with computer resources to streamline the welfare system for the state of X"

theossuary 9y ago
I don't think any engineer would consider that a good idea. But if somebody tells you that's what you're working on for the next few years, make lemonade I guess.
- wolco 9y ago
  Still sounds like fun to build.
paulie_a 9y ago
LinkedIn is basically the epitome of HR pointlessness. so that would probably be a bullet point to not include
fphhotchips 9y ago
That's not at all true. The only engineers who would think all that is a good idea are those who could update their LinkedIn. The salespeople and non-technical leadership though? They're going to love the idea of ML (read: magic) based solutions to replace human resources with computer resources to streamline their welfare systems.

gowld 9y ago

The quoted paragraph isn't ML, it's telecommunications.

nraynaud 9y ago

In France a few years ago I registered for unemployment benefits (that was quite a quest), I received a letter from the electricity utility telling me that I qualified for a reduced price. Later when I found a job, they put back the normal price.

Spooky23 9y ago

States were successful in moving Medicaid enrollment to outsourced providers. THis was probably seen as building on that theme. I think IBM bought an Irish company that did similar work in the UK, so it probably looked achievable, and a potential Cash cow for other states. (Accenture was able to sell child welfare solutions at great profit in the 90s) Its a great business as it generates alotmof complimentary sales and services.

jessaustin 9y ago
Accenture was able to sell child welfare solutions at great profit in the 90s In the 90s that would have been Andersen Consulting rather than Accenture. Although having worked with them at the time and found them worse in every way than IBM is described in this thread, I wouldn't be surprised to learn they profited at the expense of poor children.