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"where everyone else suffers tenuous and desperation is unconcerning?" Capitalism in the US has created more wealth and lifted more people out of poverty than

"where everyone else suffers tenuous and desperation is unconcerning?" Capitalism in the US has created more wealth and lifted more people out of poverty than any other nation in the history of mankind. Your statement applies to third world countries... not the United States. Oh, we're also the most free and most prosperous nation ever. That helps.

gameswithgo 9y ago
>Capitalism in the US has created more wealth and lifted more people out of poverty than any other nation in the history of mankind citation needed >Oh, we're also the most free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices#List_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices#List_b... >and most prosperous nation ever https://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/02/the-worlds-most-prosperous-nation-is.html https://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/02/the-worlds-most-prosperous-n...
moate 9y ago
CITATION NEEDED
metalliqaz 9y ago
Non sequitur. Capitalism requires some income inequality, but runaway income inequality will not be beneficial. Eventually, people get sick of eating rotten cabbage and the guillotines come out. Side note: "most free nation ever" is a total fiction as part of American exceptionalism. For just one example out of many, there are still religious blue laws on the books in towns across the country, and many are still enforced.
- kwhitefoot 9y ago
  We have laws against trading on Sundays here in Norway too. They might well have started as religiously justified laws but they are nonetheless popular here where the vast bulk of the population is non-religious and a substantial fraction avowed atheist. We don't want our day of quiet disturbed.
  - moate 9y ago
    No matter how much you love a law, limiting someone's ability to do something peaceful* is limiting their freedom. *Peaceful here means there ability to do something that doesn't harm others. We can start deep diving on the value of having a quiet day, but the idea that you can't buy a bottle of Gin on Sunday is a choice some people might not find is worth the quiet
notfromhere 9y ago
work a job making 12/hr and tell me how uplifted you feel. that's the reality for a lot of people in this country.

gameswithgo 9y ago

>Capitalism in the US has created more wealth and lifted more people out of poverty than any other nation in the history of mankind citation needed >Oh, we're also the most free https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices#List_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices#List_b... >and most prosperous nation ever https://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/02/the-worlds-most-prosperous-nation-is.html https://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/02/the-worlds-most-prosperous-n...

moate 9y ago

CITATION NEEDED

metalliqaz 9y ago

Non sequitur. Capitalism requires some income inequality, but runaway income inequality will not be beneficial. Eventually, people get sick of eating rotten cabbage and the guillotines come out. Side note: "most free nation ever" is a total fiction as part of American exceptionalism. For just one example out of many, there are still religious blue laws on the books in towns across the country, and many are still enforced.

kwhitefoot 9y ago
We have laws against trading on Sundays here in Norway too. They might well have started as religiously justified laws but they are nonetheless popular here where the vast bulk of the population is non-religious and a substantial fraction avowed atheist. We don't want our day of quiet disturbed.
- moate 9y ago
  No matter how much you love a law, limiting someone's ability to do something peaceful* is limiting their freedom. *Peaceful here means there ability to do something that doesn't harm others. We can start deep diving on the value of having a quiet day, but the idea that you can't buy a bottle of Gin on Sunday is a choice some people might not find is worth the quiet

notfromhere 9y ago

work a job making 12/hr and tell me how uplifted you feel. that's the reality for a lot of people in this country.