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1) The parent's link indicated that this is real usage data, from Campaign Monitor. CM and similar use tracking pixels, and can detect what client is being used
by qeorge 16y ago
1) The parent's link indicated that this is real usage data, from Campaign Monitor. CM and similar use tracking pixels, and can detect what client is being used to open the email.
2) I use Outlook all the time, as do many people I work with. Gmail is great for webmail, but its not a replacement for Outlook, especially if you rely heavily on contacts, calendar, tasks, or search.
- weavejester 16y agoGmail is great for webmail, but its not a replacement for Outlook, especially if you rely heavily on contacts, calendar, tasks, or search. Really? I find Google Apps to be better in all four of those categories, especially search. What makes Outlook superior in those categories?
- mike-cardwell 16y agoOutlook searches within attachments. GMail doesn't.
- ricardo 16y agoOutlook's market share isn't directly correlated to its capabilities. Many large organizations force their employees to use Outlook as their corporate standard.
- levesque 16y agoI work from multiple locations often, having my contacts, emails, calendar and tasks available from any location is very important to me. The only feature in which I think gmail is lacking/lagging behind is the tasks one. I've tried using synchronization tools before but they often deal with only one aspect at a time and do so rather poorly (last time I checked, about 1 and a half year ago)
- mike-cardwell 16y agoGMail didn't support delegation or folder sharing last time I checked. Those are important requirements for many organisations. This new feature GMail have announced is trivial and unimportant compared to many other features they could release.
- mike-cardwell 16y agoIf you're downvoting because you disagree, at least explain why. The lack of folder sharing and delegation would both be show stoppers if my organisation was considering moving to GMail. This new auto-filtering mechanism wouldn't even make it on to the interesting features list, let alone the desirable or required lists.
- sublemonic 16y agoI think HNers generally disagree with your statement: This new feature GMail have announced is trivial and unimportant compared to many other features they could release. The gmail team is not known for adding trivial or unimportant features. They probably deserve more credit than you are giving them. Also, I'm not sure how delegation and folder sharing are related to email. Perhaps you could elaborate?
- mike-cardwell 16y agoWe have to disagree on the importance of this latest feature then. Folder sharing: User A gives read or read/write access on one of their email folders to user B. I don't think I've ever used a mail service which doesn't support this simple long standing feature of email. Delegation: User A delegates permission to user B to organise events in their Calendar, or to send mail on their behalf. Delegation is very useful for people with secretaries or PAs. Folder sharing is very useful for people working in teams or all kinds.
- xiongchiamiov 16y agoI have absolutely no desire to give anyone else access to my email, and I'd hazard a guess that this is the case for many other users as well. I do want the ability to send mail as another person (I have some 10-odd email accounts), but Gmail already handles that. While this new feature may not be useful for corporate users, that doesn't mean it's not useful for users in general.
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- camiller 16y agoSo Campaign Monitor is a email marketing tool. Gmail excels at segregating unsolicited marketing into a folder called "spam". So when I don't open those emails it makes Google look like a smaller proportion than those email clients that don't filter so well. Also, by default gmail does not open graphics (like tracking pixels) when opening a message. --just say'n