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I am not sure why you are getting downvoted without rebuttals.
by sidcool 9y ago
I am not sure why you are getting downvoted without rebuttals.
- jerf 9y agoThe mention of North Korea. The first sentence would be unobjectionable and true. If nothing else it's a violation of the putative local norms in which you really shouldn't bring an unrelated political hotbutton topic in to a discussion. Though I am both aware of the fact that rule is a great deal more nuanced in its connotations than its denotations, and the fact that whether it is "unrelated" is a matter of debate. (Though personally I'd submit that the evidence is that China would be cracking down regardless of the state of North Korea in any way shape or form, so yes, it's unrelated.)
- typon 9y agoIt's not unrelated at all. The original comment posted a link that's actually unrelated to the current topic of discussion (it's not about China-South Korea relations, it's about Xi consolidating power). Then using that link, the commenter tried to make a larger point about how Chinese people need to "speak up". I'm making a similar point and showing why "speaking up" is hard by showing how the Americans haven't done so in the same conflict, where they are actually to blame rather than the Chinese.
- jerf 9y agoAmericans aren't "speaking up" about North Korea, because on average, they don't care and don't want to speak up. Note the difference between the observation that they don't care, and the claim they shouldn't care. I'm just making the first one here. You may believe that is wrong, but it won't change the facts on the ground. As a result, it's not a relevant comparison, because there's no coercion in the case you cite.