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yeah, NATO occupying one chunk of neighbouring country and igniting and fueling armed rebellion in another chunk is certianly reason to be worried. oh wait, th

yeah, NATO occupying one chunk of neighbouring country and igniting and fueling armed rebellion in another chunk is certianly reason to be worried. oh wait, that wasn't NATO, was it?

d1ffuz0r 9y ago
yes it was NATO who fueled it, just like many other revolutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution
- keymone 9y ago
  well for sure, comrade putin and his friends are the best so any protest against them must surely be a CIA coup! your logic is impeccable tovarish!
  - d1ffuz0r 9y ago
    funny, please read more about current relationship between Ukraine and Poland, Hungary, Romania (all NATO members). they supported the revolution at first, but now they treat them to acquire Ukrainian territories https://www.unian.info/politics/2184929-certain-statements-in-pace-by-hungarians-romanians-seem-to-hold-concealed-territorial-claims-to-ukraine-gerashchenko.html https://www.unian.info/politics/2184929-certain-statements-i...
    - keymone 9y ago
      do tell which territories have Poland, Hungary and Romania have occupied? because russia is already occupying crimea and parts of some eastern regions via puppet governments funded and armed by russia.
  - d1ffuz0r 9y ago
    https://www.unian.info/politics/2183494-mfa-ukraine-demands-that-hungary-cancel-self-determination-for-zakarpattia-event.html https://www.unian.info/politics/2183494-mfa-ukraine-demands-...
- gandhium 9y ago
  Surprisingly, there wasn't a single word about 'NATO fueling' in that article.
  - keymone 9y ago
    s/S/Uns/
Ygg2 9y ago
Would you prefer it the other way around? Let's say hypothetically Russia puts their bases and ICBM in Canada and assures everyone, it's only to target Mexico, in case a large narco or terrorist threat appears there.
- keymone 9y ago
  i would prefer Russia to not interfere with internal political processes. like giving Yanukovich $15bn loan on the eve of signing EU association which ultimately led to tens of thousands of people being killed.
  - Ygg2 9y ago
    That's avoiding my question. But meddling into internal political processes seems like bread and butter for any would be superpower. Or are Iraq and Afghanistan invasion somehow not interference with political processes?
    - keymone 9y ago
      your question poses a false dichotomy. the choice is not between russia occupying ukraine versus russia behaving differently somewhere else, the choice is between russia occupying ukraine and russia not occupying ukraine. i prefer russia not occupying ukraine.
- gandhium 9y ago
  Are you implying that US or NATO put their bases and ICBMs in Ukraine?

yeah, NATO occupying one chunk of neighbouring country and igniting and fueling armed rebellion in another chunk is certianly reason to be worried. oh wait, that wasn't NATO, was it?

d1ffuz0r 9y ago

yes it was NATO who fueled it, just like many other revolutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_revolution

keymone 9y ago
well for sure, comrade putin and his friends are the best so any protest against them must surely be a CIA coup! your logic is impeccable tovarish!
- d1ffuz0r 9y ago
  funny, please read more about current relationship between Ukraine and Poland, Hungary, Romania (all NATO members). they supported the revolution at first, but now they treat them to acquire Ukrainian territories https://www.unian.info/politics/2184929-certain-statements-in-pace-by-hungarians-romanians-seem-to-hold-concealed-territorial-claims-to-ukraine-gerashchenko.html https://www.unian.info/politics/2184929-certain-statements-i...
  - keymone 9y ago
    do tell which territories have Poland, Hungary and Romania have occupied? because russia is already occupying crimea and parts of some eastern regions via puppet governments funded and armed by russia.
- d1ffuz0r 9y ago
  https://www.unian.info/politics/2183494-mfa-ukraine-demands-that-hungary-cancel-self-determination-for-zakarpattia-event.html https://www.unian.info/politics/2183494-mfa-ukraine-demands-...
gandhium 9y ago
Surprisingly, there wasn't a single word about 'NATO fueling' in that article.
- keymone 9y ago
  s/S/Uns/

Ygg2 9y ago

Would you prefer it the other way around? Let's say hypothetically Russia puts their bases and ICBM in Canada and assures everyone, it's only to target Mexico, in case a large narco or terrorist threat appears there.

keymone 9y ago
i would prefer Russia to not interfere with internal political processes. like giving Yanukovich $15bn loan on the eve of signing EU association which ultimately led to tens of thousands of people being killed.
- Ygg2 9y ago
  That's avoiding my question. But meddling into internal political processes seems like bread and butter for any would be superpower. Or are Iraq and Afghanistan invasion somehow not interference with political processes?
  - keymone 9y ago
    your question poses a false dichotomy. the choice is not between russia occupying ukraine versus russia behaving differently somewhere else, the choice is between russia occupying ukraine and russia not occupying ukraine. i prefer russia not occupying ukraine.
gandhium 9y ago
Are you implying that US or NATO put their bases and ICBMs in Ukraine?