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C is used in a lot of platforms. Js only in the browser (thankfully mostly converged) and in node.

hungerstrike 9y ago
JavaScript is in the server, browser, mobile apps, desktop apps and embedded devices. Basically, it’s used everywhere that C is used and then some.
- gonvaled 9y ago
  What is the runtime? Always the same. More than C? Ha! The platform where your js is running is probably written in C!
  - hungerstrike 9y ago
    Pffffft. Nobody wants to touch C these days. That's why many, many, many, many, many more people are writing server, browser, desktop and mobile apps with JS and not C.
    - dblotsky 9y ago
      https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
      - hungerstrike 9y ago
        http://githut.info/ http://githut.info/
        dblotsky 9y ago
        There's way more to software engineering than GitHub. Example: every company that hosts their own code repositories. The TIOBE index, while not entirely accurate either, does reflect usage by a much more broad set of engineers.
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Here's another survey that shows what kinds of languages programmers actually want to use and JS tops the list while C comes in below even Bash/Shell programming and PHP.
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Incorrect. TIOBE shows you what companies are making their employees do. Github numbers show you what programmers actually want to do. However, looking at job ads these days I hardly see any for C relative to JavaScript.
        dblotsky 9y ago
        My point was that TIOBE is simply more all-encompassing than GitHut. It gives you a clearer picture of the most searched programming languages, which includes both GitHub as well as non-GitHub stats. Also, GitHut counts repositories, not lines of code. Not sure which of C or JS has more lines of code being written every year, but my guess is that it's C (Java might have more than both though).
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Yes and my point is that GitHub numbers show you a much better picture of programming languages that programmers actually want to use. Are we just going to go back and forth saying the same thing over and over though at this point?
        dblotsky 9y ago
        Nah, then it's pretty simple. My rebuttal is that I think "programming languages that programmers actually want to use" (besides still being a debatable claim) is an insignificant metric. The industry doesn't pay for what you want to use.
        hungerstrike 9y ago
- dblotsky 9y ago
  > "Basically, it’s used everywhere that C is used and then some." It's the other way around. Every JavaScript program is run by a C/C++ program.
  - quietbritishjim 9y ago
    But if you consider browsers to be a "platform", which I think they are in fairness, then the GP comment could still apply. Whether the browser is written in C is pretty irrelevant to whether it can host it.
    - dblotsky 9y ago
      I conjecture that an upper-level "platform" that's on top of a lower-level "platform", for some definition of "platform", will be less varied and fragmented than the lower-level one.

JavaScript is in the server, browser, mobile apps, desktop apps and embedded devices. Basically, it’s used everywhere that C is used and then some.

gonvaled 9y ago
What is the runtime? Always the same. More than C? Ha! The platform where your js is running is probably written in C!
- hungerstrike 9y ago
  Pffffft. Nobody wants to touch C these days. That's why many, many, many, many, many more people are writing server, browser, desktop and mobile apps with JS and not C.
  - dblotsky 9y ago
    https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
    - hungerstrike 9y ago
      http://githut.info/ http://githut.info/
      - dblotsky 9y ago
        There's way more to software engineering than GitHub. Example: every company that hosts their own code repositories. The TIOBE index, while not entirely accurate either, does reflect usage by a much more broad set of engineers.
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Here's another survey that shows what kinds of languages programmers actually want to use and JS tops the list while C comes in below even Bash/Shell programming and PHP.
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Incorrect. TIOBE shows you what companies are making their employees do. Github numbers show you what programmers actually want to do. However, looking at job ads these days I hardly see any for C relative to JavaScript.
        dblotsky 9y ago
        My point was that TIOBE is simply more all-encompassing than GitHut. It gives you a clearer picture of the most searched programming languages, which includes both GitHub as well as non-GitHub stats. Also, GitHut counts repositories, not lines of code. Not sure which of C or JS has more lines of code being written every year, but my guess is that it's C (Java might have more than both though).
        hungerstrike 9y ago
        Yes and my point is that GitHub numbers show you a much better picture of programming languages that programmers actually want to use. Are we just going to go back and forth saying the same thing over and over though at this point?
        dblotsky 9y ago
        Nah, then it's pretty simple. My rebuttal is that I think "programming languages that programmers actually want to use" (besides still being a debatable claim) is an insignificant metric. The industry doesn't pay for what you want to use.
        hungerstrike 9y ago
dblotsky 9y ago
> "Basically, it’s used everywhere that C is used and then some." It's the other way around. Every JavaScript program is run by a C/C++ program.
- quietbritishjim 9y ago
  But if you consider browsers to be a "platform", which I think they are in fairness, then the GP comment could still apply. Whether the browser is written in C is pretty irrelevant to whether it can host it.
  - dblotsky 9y ago
    I conjecture that an upper-level "platform" that's on top of a lower-level "platform", for some definition of "platform", will be less varied and fragmented than the lower-level one.