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My point was not that you can't have misplaced faith. But rather can you have misplaced faith in the notion of evidenced based conclusions. If your conclusions
by Stefan-H 9y ago
My point was not that you can't have misplaced faith. But rather can you have misplaced faith in the notion of evidenced based conclusions. If your conclusions are based on evidence, then it isn't faith. It may still be wrong, but it isn't faith.
- foldr 9y agoOh, that's just a pun on 'faith'. The 'faith' in 'misplaced faith' isn't religious faith.
- Stefan-H 9y agoCan you elaborate on what you mean? What definition of "faith" do you think is meant here?
- foldr 9y agoThe ordinary meaning of the word 'faith', as in e.g. 'John has a misplaced faith in his own abilities'.
- Stefan-H 9y agoSo belief without evidence. Do you see how it is non-sensical to then say "misplaced faith in evidence"?
- foldr 9y agoFaith doesn't mean 'belief without evidence'. That's a Richard Dawkins talking point, not anything you'll find in a dictionary. John could have excellent evidence for his own abilities, and yet his faith in those abilities could turn out to be misplaced.
- Stefan-H 9y ago"Not anything you will find in a dictionary" is a terrible bar to base something off of: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/faith Definition 2b. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/faith http://www.dictionary.com/browse/faith definition 2. Using faith and belief interchangeably seems disingenuous and ignores the religious context that is part of faith. Faith implies a lack of compromise, a concreteness, and unwillingness to change. Using that term to describe evidence based science, and the belief that evidence ought to be presented before a belief is held is an attempt to reduce science to dogma.
- bobthechef 9y agoThat's not the definition of faith, really. Faith can mean belief and it can mean trust (often the former is an expression of the latter). What you mean is blind faith, which is pejorative. When it comes to religion (Chistianity specifically), the recorded accounts of Jesus' miracles and his resurrection function as historical evidence of his divinity. What you describe is more like fideism.