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Can you support that with any kind of concrete data? The article may rely on a small sample, but at least it does have evidence to support its claim.

by brazzy 9y ago

astrodev 9y ago
Nothing but anecdotal personal experience from participation in more than a thousand deletion discussions. At one point I analyzed my "Articles for deletion" stats (how often my vote matched the community decision) and found that in order to keep my match percentage high (~95%) I needed to use more stringent criteria for males than for females.
- nkurz 9y ago
  It seems so unlikely that you'd have already analyzed your deletion statistics for males vs females that I think you have to be trolling, but I'd love to understand your worldview if you are not. Could you provide a link to your Wikipedia deletion activity?
  - astrodev 9y ago
    Sorry, everyone in the Wikimedia community is so obsessed with preserving their anonymity that "outing" myself here would put me at a significant disadvantage. I don't think I am trolling. There are multiple tools to analyze the statistics, e.g. [1], and the female biographies stood out for me. Everybody checks the deletion discussion stats since a high accuracy (in terms of one's vote matching the consensus) is a de facto requirement to become an admin. I don't think there is anything sinister going on, simply a few editors with extremely inclusionist views tend to patrol articles about females [2]. Since the average deletion discussion has only ~3 participants, this results in a bias. [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/ https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/ [2] I kid you not, for example Megalibrarygirl, who's recently become an admin, is only involved in articles about women [3] [3] https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/afdstats.py?name=Megalibrarygirl&max=500&startdate=&enddate=&altname=&nomsonly=false https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/afdstats.py?name=Megalibr...

Can you support that with any kind of concrete data? The article may rely on a small sample, but at least it does have evidence to support its claim.

by brazzy 9y ago

Can you support that with any kind of concrete data? The article may rely on a small sample, but at least it does have evidence to support its claim.

astrodev 9y ago

Nothing but anecdotal personal experience from participation in more than a thousand deletion discussions. At one point I analyzed my "Articles for deletion" stats (how often my vote matched the community decision) and found that in order to keep my match percentage high (~95%) I needed to use more stringent criteria for males than for females.

nkurz 9y ago
It seems so unlikely that you'd have already analyzed your deletion statistics for males vs females that I think you have to be trolling, but I'd love to understand your worldview if you are not. Could you provide a link to your Wikipedia deletion activity?
- astrodev 9y ago
  Sorry, everyone in the Wikimedia community is so obsessed with preserving their anonymity that "outing" myself here would put me at a significant disadvantage. I don't think I am trolling. There are multiple tools to analyze the statistics, e.g. [1], and the female biographies stood out for me. Everybody checks the deletion discussion stats since a high accuracy (in terms of one's vote matching the consensus) is a de facto requirement to become an admin. I don't think there is anything sinister going on, simply a few editors with extremely inclusionist views tend to patrol articles about females [2]. Since the average deletion discussion has only ~3 participants, this results in a bias. [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/ https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/ [2] I kid you not, for example Megalibrarygirl, who's recently become an admin, is only involved in articles about women [3] [3] https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/afdstats.py?name=Megalibrarygirl&max=500&startdate=&enddate=&altname=&nomsonly=false https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/afdstats.py?name=Megalibr...