>And yet suns with far more mass than is needed to make a black hole exist. Because simple heat pressure keeps the black hole from forming. A star has internal

>And yet suns with far more mass than is needed to make a black hole exist. Because simple heat pressure keeps the black hole from forming. A star has internal fusion/fission that keeps it's mass from collapsing. Once a supermassive star runs out of energy, the entire thing comes rushing centerwards (and some of it gets explodified as supernova) >You are talking assuming the black hole is already there, and saying quark degeneracy can't resist that, but you forget the black hole has to form first. Blackholes aren't magic. To form, a certain matter density must be reached in a certain volume of space (which can be surprisingly low; the blackhole at the center of the milkyway is not much more dense than water at normal atmospheric pressure). Once you have reached this specific point, you get a black hole. From an outside perspective, being pulled into a blackhole looks like being redshifted out of existence and torn apart, for the infalling object, nothing happens (unless the BH is small enough). The black horizon around a black hole is not a simple line, it's a smort of smudge leading up to the real border; the closer you get the more redshifted everything becomes. Thus, for the naked observer, it might appear as though the object has been swallowed even though it might not have yet crossed the event horizon.