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No it will not. For consent it is explicitly forbiden to use legal / technical speech and you can't cascade it. Allowing you to use my data has nothing to do wi

by _o_ 9y ago

No it will not. For consent it is explicitly forbiden to use legal / technical speech and you can't cascade it. Allowing you to use my data has nothing to do with you giving my data to google. The more 3rd party "providers" the more fishy will your site look. And you can bet the user wont give consent for 100 tick boxes - you can't pretick them, it needs to be opt-in. And this is the reason: https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties-list https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties-list This might help: https://pagefair.com/blog/2018/granular-gdpr-consent/ https://pagefair.com/blog/2018/granular-gdpr-consent/

sobani 9y ago
A quick scan through that list doesn't raise any red flags for me. Of course they need to share data with payment providers (like a bank), or else they won't be able to get or deposit your money. Of course they need to share data with auditing firms, or else they won't be able to do business in certain countries. Of course they need to provide customer service. Of course they need to check for fraud. etc. What do you expect Paypal to do in those cases?
- PeterisP 9y ago
  Many of the things listed above (legal requirements, etc) don't actually require consent, so they have different criteria - in essence, Paypal just needs to clearly inform the user what they're doing. Consent is just one of six criteria that may allow you to use private data; the actually necessary (as opposed to merely desirable/profitable) use cases of the data fall under one of the other criteria and don't require obtaining consent. Consent is mostly relevant to all the marketing and customer analysis activities, which aren't essential to the service, so can be refused, and would be severely curtailed as users stop consenting to these uses of their data.
- _o_ 9y ago
  Check it a little bit better, grep for "market". Google? Facebook (i dont have FB account, never had!)? I can hardly wait to NOT tick those and demand view of shared data. They are already profiting from the service they provide but they still give (Sell! I bet they can use a different terminology but essentially this is it) the users data to other companies. Those are the companies that brought GDPR on all of us, and those are the parties that should be punished with 4% global revenue, multiple times. I bet everyone will be shocked what the companies are doing with our data, from our banks, credit card companies, insurance companies,... i think that everyone (or most) will stop complaining about GDPR and want it for their country too. Just an example, what gets delivered just for Facebook: "Advertising ID and device ID to segment user groups based on app behaviour, encrypted e-mail address associated with PayPal users (without indicating account relationship), IP Address, Anonymous ID generated by cookies, pixel tags or similar technologies embedded in webpages, ads and emails delivered to users. Mobile advertiser ID, IP Address and other metadata via Facebook SDK in mobile apps." Encrypted e-mail address? Why encrypted, not hashed? IP? Why the FB needs my IP on connecting to paypal? And the list goes on and on. If GDPR will stop this the whole world will benefit.

by _o_ 9y ago

sobani 9y ago

A quick scan through that list doesn't raise any red flags for me. Of course they need to share data with payment providers (like a bank), or else they won't be able to get or deposit your money. Of course they need to share data with auditing firms, or else they won't be able to do business in certain countries. Of course they need to provide customer service. Of course they need to check for fraud. etc. What do you expect Paypal to do in those cases?

PeterisP 9y ago
Many of the things listed above (legal requirements, etc) don't actually require consent, so they have different criteria - in essence, Paypal just needs to clearly inform the user what they're doing. Consent is just one of six criteria that may allow you to use private data; the actually necessary (as opposed to merely desirable/profitable) use cases of the data fall under one of the other criteria and don't require obtaining consent. Consent is mostly relevant to all the marketing and customer analysis activities, which aren't essential to the service, so can be refused, and would be severely curtailed as users stop consenting to these uses of their data.
_o_ 9y ago
Check it a little bit better, grep for "market". Google? Facebook (i dont have FB account, never had!)? I can hardly wait to NOT tick those and demand view of shared data. They are already profiting from the service they provide but they still give (Sell! I bet they can use a different terminology but essentially this is it) the users data to other companies. Those are the companies that brought GDPR on all of us, and those are the parties that should be punished with 4% global revenue, multiple times. I bet everyone will be shocked what the companies are doing with our data, from our banks, credit card companies, insurance companies,... i think that everyone (or most) will stop complaining about GDPR and want it for their country too. Just an example, what gets delivered just for Facebook: "Advertising ID and device ID to segment user groups based on app behaviour, encrypted e-mail address associated with PayPal users (without indicating account relationship), IP Address, Anonymous ID generated by cookies, pixel tags or similar technologies embedded in webpages, ads and emails delivered to users. Mobile advertiser ID, IP Address and other metadata via Facebook SDK in mobile apps." Encrypted e-mail address? Why encrypted, not hashed? IP? Why the FB needs my IP on connecting to paypal? And the list goes on and on. If GDPR will stop this the whole world will benefit.