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I moved away from Iowa, as have a lot of people over the years. The growth rate lately has been about .5% per year, and the population actually shrunk in the 1

by bb88 9y ago

I moved away from Iowa, as have a lot of people over the years. The growth rate lately has been about .5% per year, and the population actually shrunk in the 1980's. [1] The weather sucks there. It's cold as fuck in the winter, and hot and humid as fuck in the summer. There's maybe 4 enjoyable weeks the entire year. The politics suck. Steve King is a US Rep from Iowa. For whatever reason Iowa keeps electing him in, and it's embarrassing. The jobs there suck. Des Moines is a small town, and other cities are even smaller. There just aren't enough tech jobs to keep ISU and Iowa graduates in the state. The best and brightest leave. Yes, Google has a data center, but it's in Council Bluffs. Have you ever even heard of Council Bluffs before that? [1] http://population.us/ia/ http://population.us/ia/

davidw 9y ago
Data centers don't really lead to many jobs. Prineville, Oregon of all places has a FB one, and it's as automated as can be. Also, being able to ride my bike here is worth an awful lot: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8UVHrhwCHybhE2LU2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8UVHrhwCHybhE2LU2 Not sure how much of that kind of thing you get in Iowa.
- danielecook 9y ago
  As an aside - Iowa has an enormous annual bike ride called [Ragbrai](https://ragbrai.com https://ragbrai.com). I’ve wanted to go for years. Those that I know that have done it loved it.
  - bb88 9y ago
    Yes, it's also in July and it's brutal if you ride during the afternoon. That's why everyone does all of their riding in the morning. Edited to add: There are biking trails, but the state of Iowa is not particularly bike friendly, because six months out of the year it's impossible to ride your bike. The bicyclists I knew that lived there did road and highway biking. There's no mountains, so mountain biking is out.
    - arreyder 9y ago
      I live in Des Moines, many of us bike year round. The paved bike trails are well maintained in all seasons and there are many miles of them. Snow and ice in the metro areas are promptly removed, though this often takes a while in some of the more remote areas. We also ride single track and winter only trails on fatbikes made to handle the snow. It's fantastic. Also, we have mountain bike trails and we do have a lot of elevation change. The difference here is we have what's called rollers. Ends up being forced intervals and make for a great workout. As a trail steward, I maintain one of the local trails near Des Moines and here's a link to the page that coordinates our efforts and catalogs the trails in the central Iowa region. http://www.centraliowatrails.com/ http://www.centraliowatrails.com/ Whiterock recently opened and is fantastic. ~30 miles of single track and double track with around 3000 ft of climbing for a full lap.
  - arreyder 9y ago
    Absolutely do it at least once but do not expect it to be super easy. Most years we average more climbing than Ride the Rockies and it's always 10 degrees hotter on the pavement than the air temp which will likely be in the 90F's. The great thing though, this is not a race, and there's lots of places to stop and relax along the way. You have all day to make it to the next overnight town. Many of us do a gravel route and end up in the same towns every evening as the main ride. Riding gravel is a really big deal here and this alternate route has caught on. The official ride now even includes an optional gravel loop on one day. Hope you make it some summer soon.
    - davidw 9y ago
      Speaking of gravel, I think this is really cool: https://dirtykanza.com/ https://dirtykanza.com/ - it really makes the most of the roads and land they have, even if it's not someplace 'spectacular'. And it looks pretty brutal to boot.
hugh4life 9y ago
Iowa seems boring to me, but they feature an extreme amount of communities with the greatest income mobility(especially in the districts Steve King represents) in the country. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/iowa-view/2015/06/23/iowa-good-place-move/29196535/ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/i...
ourmandave 9y ago
The weather sucks there. It's cold as fuck in the winter, and hot and humid as fuck in the summer. There's maybe 4 enjoyable weeks the entire year. Can confirm.
Caveman_Coder 9y ago
> "Yes, Google has a data center, but it's in Council Bluffs. Have you ever even heard of Council Bluffs before that?" Most people working for Google in Council Bluffs probably live in or spend their time in Omaha, which isn't that bad of a city.

by bb88 9y ago

davidw 9y ago

Data centers don't really lead to many jobs. Prineville, Oregon of all places has a FB one, and it's as automated as can be. Also, being able to ride my bike here is worth an awful lot: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8UVHrhwCHybhE2LU2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/8UVHrhwCHybhE2LU2 Not sure how much of that kind of thing you get in Iowa.

danielecook 9y ago
As an aside - Iowa has an enormous annual bike ride called [Ragbrai](https://ragbrai.com https://ragbrai.com). I’ve wanted to go for years. Those that I know that have done it loved it.
- bb88 9y ago
  Yes, it's also in July and it's brutal if you ride during the afternoon. That's why everyone does all of their riding in the morning. Edited to add: There are biking trails, but the state of Iowa is not particularly bike friendly, because six months out of the year it's impossible to ride your bike. The bicyclists I knew that lived there did road and highway biking. There's no mountains, so mountain biking is out.
  - arreyder 9y ago
    I live in Des Moines, many of us bike year round. The paved bike trails are well maintained in all seasons and there are many miles of them. Snow and ice in the metro areas are promptly removed, though this often takes a while in some of the more remote areas. We also ride single track and winter only trails on fatbikes made to handle the snow. It's fantastic. Also, we have mountain bike trails and we do have a lot of elevation change. The difference here is we have what's called rollers. Ends up being forced intervals and make for a great workout. As a trail steward, I maintain one of the local trails near Des Moines and here's a link to the page that coordinates our efforts and catalogs the trails in the central Iowa region. http://www.centraliowatrails.com/ http://www.centraliowatrails.com/ Whiterock recently opened and is fantastic. ~30 miles of single track and double track with around 3000 ft of climbing for a full lap.
- arreyder 9y ago
  Absolutely do it at least once but do not expect it to be super easy. Most years we average more climbing than Ride the Rockies and it's always 10 degrees hotter on the pavement than the air temp which will likely be in the 90F's. The great thing though, this is not a race, and there's lots of places to stop and relax along the way. You have all day to make it to the next overnight town. Many of us do a gravel route and end up in the same towns every evening as the main ride. Riding gravel is a really big deal here and this alternate route has caught on. The official ride now even includes an optional gravel loop on one day. Hope you make it some summer soon.
  - davidw 9y ago
    Speaking of gravel, I think this is really cool: https://dirtykanza.com/ https://dirtykanza.com/ - it really makes the most of the roads and land they have, even if it's not someplace 'spectacular'. And it looks pretty brutal to boot.

hugh4life 9y ago

Iowa seems boring to me, but they feature an extreme amount of communities with the greatest income mobility(especially in the districts Steve King represents) in the country. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/iowa-view/2015/06/23/iowa-good-place-move/29196535/ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/i...

ourmandave 9y ago

The weather sucks there. It's cold as fuck in the winter, and hot and humid as fuck in the summer. There's maybe 4 enjoyable weeks the entire year. Can confirm.

Caveman_Coder 9y ago

> "Yes, Google has a data center, but it's in Council Bluffs. Have you ever even heard of Council Bluffs before that?" Most people working for Google in Council Bluffs probably live in or spend their time in Omaha, which isn't that bad of a city.