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No they haven’t. When someone clicks on a normal link (not an ad) they found through google search that ultimately facilitates business, google gets nothing.

by prklmn 9y ago

ChuckMcM 9y ago
If you are speaking strictly of cash from the person clicking you are correct. If you consider the advertisers however, you would be incorrect. When a person clicks on an "normal link", Google notes the search terms used, the link that was clicked, the time it took you to click that link (which goes to hesitation or not), the IP address from which you clicked that link (which tells where you live), any google cookies (which if you're "logged into chrome" or your web browser can be substantial) and if you land on a web page with Google Analytics and AdSense advertisements they will know if your trip through the search engine ended up paying one of their advertisers or not. Rather than "nothing" that is actually quite a bit of useful information that Google then resells in a variety of ways to their advertisers. But you are absolutely correct that the person clicking the link doesn't pay any money to google.
- soared 9y ago
  So data from patreon is even more valuable - what content is a user willing to spend money on? John Doe pays $5/mo on Patreon for a youtube channel that shows how to remodel a home? He is obivously in-market for real estate, remodeling, home decor, tools, furniture, etc. That data could be worth more than $1 (a 20% cut) per month.
- gowld 9y ago
  Google gets all the same data from a YT watch.
busterarm 9y ago
What normal links are most people clicking on anymore? I guarantee you that 90% of people clicking stuff they googled are clicking on an ad (I spent $20 million on Google ads last year). This is even more true as Google provides more and more structured data on the results page without requiring a click.
- prklmn 9y ago
  That's quite a bit of money - just out of curiosity, what do you sell if you don't mind me asking? I personally click normal links and haven't seen an ad on google in years, as I have been a long time user of ublock origin and a different content blocker on mobile since ios9. I think I'm in a decent-sized and growing population in that regard. And as for your guarantee, I'd bet that at least 10% of people who use google don't see ads at all because they use adblock of some form, so maybe 90% of the people who see the ads click those links, but not 90% of all searchers. Does google report the searches that went without an ad displayed?
  - busterarm 9y ago
    Legal services.

No they haven’t. When someone clicks on a normal link (not an ad) they found through google search that ultimately facilitates business, google gets nothing.

by prklmn 9y ago

No they haven’t. When someone clicks on a normal link (not an ad) they found through google search that ultimately facilitates business, google gets nothing.

ChuckMcM 9y ago

If you are speaking strictly of cash from the person clicking you are correct. If you consider the advertisers however, you would be incorrect. When a person clicks on an "normal link", Google notes the search terms used, the link that was clicked, the time it took you to click that link (which goes to hesitation or not), the IP address from which you clicked that link (which tells where you live), any google cookies (which if you're "logged into chrome" or your web browser can be substantial) and if you land on a web page with Google Analytics and AdSense advertisements they will know if your trip through the search engine ended up paying one of their advertisers or not. Rather than "nothing" that is actually quite a bit of useful information that Google then resells in a variety of ways to their advertisers. But you are absolutely correct that the person clicking the link doesn't pay any money to google.

soared 9y ago
So data from patreon is even more valuable - what content is a user willing to spend money on? John Doe pays $5/mo on Patreon for a youtube channel that shows how to remodel a home? He is obivously in-market for real estate, remodeling, home decor, tools, furniture, etc. That data could be worth more than $1 (a 20% cut) per month.
gowld 9y ago
Google gets all the same data from a YT watch.

busterarm 9y ago

What normal links are most people clicking on anymore? I guarantee you that 90% of people clicking stuff they googled are clicking on an ad (I spent $20 million on Google ads last year). This is even more true as Google provides more and more structured data on the results page without requiring a click.

prklmn 9y ago
That's quite a bit of money - just out of curiosity, what do you sell if you don't mind me asking? I personally click normal links and haven't seen an ad on google in years, as I have been a long time user of ublock origin and a different content blocker on mobile since ios9. I think I'm in a decent-sized and growing population in that regard. And as for your guarantee, I'd bet that at least 10% of people who use google don't see ads at all because they use adblock of some form, so maybe 90% of the people who see the ads click those links, but not 90% of all searchers. Does google report the searches that went without an ad displayed?
- busterarm 9y ago
  Legal services.