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Because interested parties can google it and in the reasonably likely case that the question goes unanswered, it's just noise.

by robfitz 16y ago

jacquesm 16y ago
Google is not always going to turn up the reference a parent post refers to though. The 'citation needed' ones are another matter.
- Alex3917 16y ago
  Far too often comments asking for a cite are voted up and comments that don't provide cites are voted down, even when the cite is trivially findable via Google. Take this thread for instance: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1552233 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1552233 Regardless of whether I deserved to be downvoted, there is zero reason for the person asking for a cite to get upvoted considering the the relevant article is literally the first Google result for "old spice" "hormone disruptor". I think it's bullshit that people regularly get downmodded for posting comments quoting basic facts that everyone should know, or at least know how to verify, without citing a source. If you don't know how to, say, look up the GDP of a foreign country yourself then you really have no business being on this site to begin with.
  - tokenadult 16y ago
    I can't speak for other readers of HN, but I often ask those questions after seeing that Google points to unreliable sources without scientific editing. I'd expect someone who RELIES on a fact being true knowing how to check that fact with more than just Google.
    - jacquesm 16y ago
      As a rule, when I see you do that though you qualify your request to that extent. Most of the 'citation needed' comments say just that and no more. In the end though, the example linked is a pretty good one in that the base claim ('old spice causes infertility') is indeed somewhat supported but not to the extent that you're in acute danger: http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/browse.php?brand_id=705 http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/browse.php?brand_id=705 I couldn't care less because I can't use aftershave anyway but I can see how that might be a problem if you used it every day (or even twice a day for the 5 O'clock shadow).

Because interested parties can google it and in the reasonably likely case that the question goes unanswered, it's just noise.

by robfitz 16y ago

Because interested parties can google it and in the reasonably likely case that the question goes unanswered, it's just noise.

jacquesm 16y ago

Google is not always going to turn up the reference a parent post refers to though. The 'citation needed' ones are another matter.

Alex3917 16y ago
Far too often comments asking for a cite are voted up and comments that don't provide cites are voted down, even when the cite is trivially findable via Google. Take this thread for instance: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1552233 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1552233 Regardless of whether I deserved to be downvoted, there is zero reason for the person asking for a cite to get upvoted considering the the relevant article is literally the first Google result for "old spice" "hormone disruptor". I think it's bullshit that people regularly get downmodded for posting comments quoting basic facts that everyone should know, or at least know how to verify, without citing a source. If you don't know how to, say, look up the GDP of a foreign country yourself then you really have no business being on this site to begin with.
- tokenadult 16y ago
  I can't speak for other readers of HN, but I often ask those questions after seeing that Google points to unreliable sources without scientific editing. I'd expect someone who RELIES on a fact being true knowing how to check that fact with more than just Google.
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    As a rule, when I see you do that though you qualify your request to that extent. Most of the 'citation needed' comments say just that and no more. In the end though, the example linked is a pretty good one in that the base claim ('old spice causes infertility') is indeed somewhat supported but not to the extent that you're in acute danger: http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/browse.php?brand_id=705 http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/browse.php?brand_id=705 I couldn't care less because I can't use aftershave anyway but I can see how that might be a problem if you used it every day (or even twice a day for the 5 O'clock shadow).