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More than a decade ago Mark Zuckerberg said that anyone who gave him a photo of themselves was a "dumb fuck". His entire plan this whole time has been to do exa

More than a decade ago Mark Zuckerberg said that anyone who gave him a photo of themselves was a "dumb fuck". His entire plan this whole time has been to do exactly this kind of thing (edit: because he thinks it is profit-maximizing), and he thinks you're a dumb fuck (just like me) for uploading your photo to let him use in the maximum-scary-surveillance way. We should all just get off Facebook. The problem is that you can't leave even after you "delete" your account, and they have your photos tagged and matched to your email even if you never signed up anyway since all your "dumb fuck" friends gave Mark Zuckerberg their email passwords too - so even if you never sign up, your friends already ratted you out and gave up your email and photos anyway.

vesinisa 9y ago
This is why I think the 'right to be forgotten' legislation might actually be a GOOD thing. Sure, it's some extra work when designing a new system, and lots of legacy systems require expensive rework, and a few twats will abuse the right to have Google redact journalistic information about their personal misadventures from the public sphere. But it's still my private data, so I should have the right to forbid companies I don't trust from storing and processing it. And they should be legally forced to oblige and have processes in place so that such request can be truly honored.
- tcd 9y ago
  Yeah, if you think Facebook would EVER honour a system like that then I have many, many bridges in stock for you :) To most people, flicking a bit from 0 to 1 is enough to convince them your data is "deleted", however, in the database, what people never see, is that it the column name is actually "hidden". :)
ikeyany 9y ago
It's not that we naively trust him, we just believe the creepy data gathering is the price to pay for that warm feeling of being connected with pseudo-friends and kinda-acquaintances.
- cryptoz 9y ago
  It's not just creepy data gathering. It's specific, targeted emotional manipulation. Facebook runs "experiments" on its users to intentionally make them feel sad or depressed. They publish these works, proud of their accomplishments, and tell us that we agreed to be emotionally manipulated into a dark depression because we agreed to the Terms of Service when we signed up. Facebook believes you gave them your informed consent to fuck with your emotions because they believe you read their TOS and they believe it is morally okay to do stuff like this. No, it's not worth those warm fuzzy feelings you get, because half the time it won't be warm and fuzzy but actually, it will be a depression that Facebook intentionally put you into, just to see if it could. Facebook is not worth it. Email lets you stay in touch just fine.
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vesinisa 9y ago

This is why I think the 'right to be forgotten' legislation might actually be a GOOD thing. Sure, it's some extra work when designing a new system, and lots of legacy systems require expensive rework, and a few twats will abuse the right to have Google redact journalistic information about their personal misadventures from the public sphere. But it's still my private data, so I should have the right to forbid companies I don't trust from storing and processing it. And they should be legally forced to oblige and have processes in place so that such request can be truly honored.

tcd 9y ago
Yeah, if you think Facebook would EVER honour a system like that then I have many, many bridges in stock for you :) To most people, flicking a bit from 0 to 1 is enough to convince them your data is "deleted", however, in the database, what people never see, is that it the column name is actually "hidden". :)

ikeyany 9y ago

It's not that we naively trust him, we just believe the creepy data gathering is the price to pay for that warm feeling of being connected with pseudo-friends and kinda-acquaintances.

cryptoz 9y ago
It's not just creepy data gathering. It's specific, targeted emotional manipulation. Facebook runs "experiments" on its users to intentionally make them feel sad or depressed. They publish these works, proud of their accomplishments, and tell us that we agreed to be emotionally manipulated into a dark depression because we agreed to the Terms of Service when we signed up. Facebook believes you gave them your informed consent to fuck with your emotions because they believe you read their TOS and they believe it is morally okay to do stuff like this. No, it's not worth those warm fuzzy feelings you get, because half the time it won't be warm and fuzzy but actually, it will be a depression that Facebook intentionally put you into, just to see if it could. Facebook is not worth it. Email lets you stay in touch just fine.
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