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I simply can't imagine how one can use the web today w/o this strategy. Frustratingly, I also can't figure out how to instruct my non-technical family and frien

I simply can't imagine how one can use the web today w/o this strategy. Frustratingly, I also can't figure out how to instruct my non-technical family and friends on doing this themselves.

bunderbunder 9y ago
I'm frustrated here, too. It's not that nobody's interested - people I know are interested in finding out how my browser is able to display pages so much faster than theirs, and how my computer remains responsive even when I have a bazillion tabs open. But effectively using NoScript inevitably requires having at least enough technical knowledge to understand how JavaScript works and predict which blocked components are causing the bit of the page that you actually want to fail to load. It's almost like there needs to be a NoScript-like plugin that crowdsources a whitelist of domains (or, maybe better yet, specific scripts) so that non-technical users can have access to the knowledge of people who have the ability to figure this mess out. But, of course, you'd need to figure out a crowdsourcing method that's resistant to attack, because the ad networks and other malicious players would immediately be paying the click farmers to vote their scripts into the whitelist.
- 341c8ec7 9y ago
  The best solution I have found for my friends and family is the Brave Browser on the desktop, and Firefox Focus on mobile. Neither are perfect, you do have to give up some granular control, but I feel they might be the best solutions for the layman at this time. I've also heard that DuckDuckGo recently made a simplified uBlock time add-on. Haven't had a chance to play with that much however, maybe someone can chime in.
oldcynic 9y ago
rPi and pi-hole is probably the best option here these days. Friends often ask how their phone is so much nicer when they visit than at home. :D I've converted a couple. I don't think trying to convey what ad or script blocking choices they should be making really works with non-tech folks any more. To be fair it was always a bit of a stretch...

I simply can't imagine how one can use the web today w/o this strategy. Frustratingly, I also can't figure out how to instruct my non-technical family and friends on doing this themselves.

bunderbunder 9y ago

I'm frustrated here, too. It's not that nobody's interested - people I know are interested in finding out how my browser is able to display pages so much faster than theirs, and how my computer remains responsive even when I have a bazillion tabs open. But effectively using NoScript inevitably requires having at least enough technical knowledge to understand how JavaScript works and predict which blocked components are causing the bit of the page that you actually want to fail to load. It's almost like there needs to be a NoScript-like plugin that crowdsources a whitelist of domains (or, maybe better yet, specific scripts) so that non-technical users can have access to the knowledge of people who have the ability to figure this mess out. But, of course, you'd need to figure out a crowdsourcing method that's resistant to attack, because the ad networks and other malicious players would immediately be paying the click farmers to vote their scripts into the whitelist.

341c8ec7 9y ago
The best solution I have found for my friends and family is the Brave Browser on the desktop, and Firefox Focus on mobile. Neither are perfect, you do have to give up some granular control, but I feel they might be the best solutions for the layman at this time. I've also heard that DuckDuckGo recently made a simplified uBlock time add-on. Haven't had a chance to play with that much however, maybe someone can chime in.

oldcynic 9y ago

rPi and pi-hole is probably the best option here these days. Friends often ask how their phone is so much nicer when they visit than at home. :D I've converted a couple. I don't think trying to convey what ad or script blocking choices they should be making really works with non-tech folks any more. To be fair it was always a bit of a stretch...