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Interesting development, happening earlier than what I had assumed! The TechCrunch article states that companies running fully driverless vehicles will need to
by edshiro 9y ago
Interesting development, happening earlier than what I had assumed!
The TechCrunch article states that companies running fully driverless vehicles will need to enable the ability for secure remote access and control of vehicles, but I wonder whether:
1. Companies developing autonomous vehicles have focused much of their efforts on remote piloting
2. Latency won't be a killer, especially if a quick intervention is required
3. From a safety point of view, this regulation seems too earlier as some companies with lagging tech may attempt to offer driverless services without safety driver to generate PR, please investors, etc. - basically "fake it 'til you make it", but playing with people's lives this time.
- plopz 9y agoI think the Waymo cars in Arizona are already equipped to be remote controlled.
- dx034 9y ago> Latency won't be a killer, especially if a quick intervention is required Probably not controlling them but observing vehicles and steering in case they stop working. E.g. if a car stops on a busy motorway because of a software fault, a remote controller could drive it to the shoulder or next exit to avoid congestion.
- manmal 9y ago5G will have decent latency (3-5ms or stgh), this might suffice to steer in real-time.
- wbl 9y agoIs that guaranteed for safety critical applications?
- Hydraulix989 9y agoPerhaps but guaranteeing a signal is practically impossible.
- Piskvorrr 9y agoNope. Also, handwaving - "let's assume that there's perfect 5G coverage, now a quarter our issues is gone, success!" In reality, this would be more of a "move fast and break things" scenario.
- notahacker 9y agoI guess their hope with latency is that cases where they have an issue with latency and cases where they have an issue with the car behaving erratically in a way which needs direct human intervention won't tend to overlap. I'm not sure how good an assumption this is...
- djrogers 9y agoMy assumption is that during these trials the remote control will be based in another moving vehicle following / observing the self-driving one. That allows for direct RF control, removing latency as a factor. If this requirement continues past the trials stage, I guess we'll have some issues to work out.
- tim333 9y agoI doubt remote piloting is intended for quick intervention. Probably more if the thing is stuck in the middle of the road because it's closed off and similar.