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I think its getting pretty close to time for a revert back to Digg v3. Look at google trends for Reddit vs. Digg. When something's a failure, its a failure.

by flipp 16y ago

mcgraw 16y ago
Release. Iterate. Repeat. But at a pretty hefty cost. Definitely wasn't ready for prime-time, but it's here and they're going to be pretty busy over the next month or so re-integrating v3 philosophy and stabilizing the new back end.
- swolchok 16y ago
  "Iterate" means "repeat".
  - deleted 16y ago
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  - mcgraw 16y ago
    That's great, but to be clear: Release - Ship it, get it out there for public consumption Iterate (on your release) - Refine what you just shipped however you see fit (bugs, missing features) Repeat - Ship what you've refined and begin iterating on what you've released
- flipp 16y ago
  This wasn't an iteration. This was changing pretty much the foundation of the site in a massive redesign they've been working on for months.
  - ojbyrne 16y ago
    ...years...
  - mcgraw 16y ago
    That was a magnified iteration on many levels which people are not used to seeing -- design, philosophy, code. They didn't simply release a new look, they released what they believe is fixing what they felt was broken in prior versions, ie., left/Right wing bury machines, power users. Ultimately, they released a product that wasn't ready for public consumption despite being in Beta for several weeks. Had their algorithms worked effectively, preferences to change the default behavior existed, and a stable back-end in place we might be singing a different tune.
ojbyrne 16y ago
I very much doubt they can do that. What they seem to be doing is adding the features of v3 back into the new architecture of v4. Not fun.
drivebyacct2 16y ago
I continue to find this funny as digg users file into other sites, reddit included, and talk about how great it is compared to digg, how happy they are that they "switched". Number one, digg's story quality tanked during version 2 and the comments went along with it. Version 3 brought an even more broken commenting system, and more of the same run of the mill storieds. Version 3 also brought in some ridiculous lag, that for whatever reason, managed to post articles from Engadget, reddit, etc days later. Digg was the place to get tech news. With version 3, it was the place to get reddit's news from 3 days ago. Now with Version 4 there are auto submitted "publisher" stories. This is what's causing people to jump ship? Frankly, if that's the reason they're leaving digg, I hope they stay away from the social news sites I'm on.

I think its getting pretty close to time for a revert back to Digg v3. Look at google trends for Reddit vs. Digg. When something's a failure, its a failure.

by flipp 16y ago

I think its getting pretty close to time for a revert back to Digg v3. Look at google trends for Reddit vs. Digg. When something's a failure, its a failure.

mcgraw 16y ago

Release. Iterate. Repeat. But at a pretty hefty cost. Definitely wasn't ready for prime-time, but it's here and they're going to be pretty busy over the next month or so re-integrating v3 philosophy and stabilizing the new back end.

swolchok 16y ago
"Iterate" means "repeat".
- deleted 16y ago
  [deleted]
- mcgraw 16y ago
  That's great, but to be clear: Release - Ship it, get it out there for public consumption Iterate (on your release) - Refine what you just shipped however you see fit (bugs, missing features) Repeat - Ship what you've refined and begin iterating on what you've released
flipp 16y ago
This wasn't an iteration. This was changing pretty much the foundation of the site in a massive redesign they've been working on for months.
- ojbyrne 16y ago
  ...years...
- mcgraw 16y ago
  That was a magnified iteration on many levels which people are not used to seeing -- design, philosophy, code. They didn't simply release a new look, they released what they believe is fixing what they felt was broken in prior versions, ie., left/Right wing bury machines, power users. Ultimately, they released a product that wasn't ready for public consumption despite being in Beta for several weeks. Had their algorithms worked effectively, preferences to change the default behavior existed, and a stable back-end in place we might be singing a different tune.

ojbyrne 16y ago

I very much doubt they can do that. What they seem to be doing is adding the features of v3 back into the new architecture of v4. Not fun.

drivebyacct2 16y ago

I continue to find this funny as digg users file into other sites, reddit included, and talk about how great it is compared to digg, how happy they are that they "switched". Number one, digg's story quality tanked during version 2 and the comments went along with it. Version 3 brought an even more broken commenting system, and more of the same run of the mill storieds. Version 3 also brought in some ridiculous lag, that for whatever reason, managed to post articles from Engadget, reddit, etc days later. Digg was the place to get tech news. With version 3, it was the place to get reddit's news from 3 days ago. Now with Version 4 there are auto submitted "publisher" stories. This is what's causing people to jump ship? Frankly, if that's the reason they're leaving digg, I hope they stay away from the social news sites I'm on.