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I thought while Cost of living in Seattle is relatively lesser than NYC, the house prices are exorbitant. NYC has advantage of very close proximity to NJ, Conne

I thought while Cost of living in Seattle is relatively lesser than NYC, the house prices are exorbitant. NYC has advantage of very close proximity to NJ, Connecticut where you could probably get a better home than in Seattle-Bellvue-Redmond area.

lotsofpulp 9y ago
The time, effort, and stress of commuting easily offsets any gains from living outside of NYC. Any city with decent neighborhoods will be at least a 60 minute commute door to door, plus you have to budget another 30 minutes for delays and whatnot because the public transit is terrible. It's very difficult to plan anything on work days if you're commuting into NYC, and you get to pay super high rents and property taxes for states with huge deficits and infrastructure debt which means the situation won't get any better. Seattle offers better food, recreational activities, growing future, and no income tax. I'd say the weather is better too, but some people really miss the sun, but you can easily fly to a beach resort for multiple weekends of the year with the savings of not living in the NYC area.
- RHSeeger 9y ago
  On the other hand, for NYC most of your commute is by train. Resting on the train is a lot less stressful than driving.
  - lotsofpulp 9y ago
    Wouldn't be bad if the train was reliable, but if you monitor njtransit.com, it's late all too often, and if you have connecting trains then it will add to the stress. If it was like Japan and you could actually make plans, then it wouldn't be so bad.
- dolinsky 9y ago
  "It depends" As someone who has gone through this for some 20 yrs, it's usually a faster commute to travel from Hoboken to pretty much anywhere along/south of the PATH line during peak hours (so 34th down to the southern tip of Manhattan) versus a starting point of the UES/UWS (which is where the comparable housing exists). My commute from Hoboken to various startup locations in NYC was consistently ~45 minutes door to door, versus an hour for my friends on the UES/UWS.
  - lotsofpulp 9y ago
    Hoboken might as well be a borough of NYC, as well as the waterfront part of Jersey City. I was referring to places most think of when raising a family and wanting to own a home with a driveway.

lotsofpulp 9y ago

The time, effort, and stress of commuting easily offsets any gains from living outside of NYC. Any city with decent neighborhoods will be at least a 60 minute commute door to door, plus you have to budget another 30 minutes for delays and whatnot because the public transit is terrible. It's very difficult to plan anything on work days if you're commuting into NYC, and you get to pay super high rents and property taxes for states with huge deficits and infrastructure debt which means the situation won't get any better. Seattle offers better food, recreational activities, growing future, and no income tax. I'd say the weather is better too, but some people really miss the sun, but you can easily fly to a beach resort for multiple weekends of the year with the savings of not living in the NYC area.

RHSeeger 9y ago
On the other hand, for NYC most of your commute is by train. Resting on the train is a lot less stressful than driving.
- lotsofpulp 9y ago
  Wouldn't be bad if the train was reliable, but if you monitor njtransit.com, it's late all too often, and if you have connecting trains then it will add to the stress. If it was like Japan and you could actually make plans, then it wouldn't be so bad.
dolinsky 9y ago
"It depends" As someone who has gone through this for some 20 yrs, it's usually a faster commute to travel from Hoboken to pretty much anywhere along/south of the PATH line during peak hours (so 34th down to the southern tip of Manhattan) versus a starting point of the UES/UWS (which is where the comparable housing exists). My commute from Hoboken to various startup locations in NYC was consistently ~45 minutes door to door, versus an hour for my friends on the UES/UWS.
- lotsofpulp 9y ago
  Hoboken might as well be a borough of NYC, as well as the waterfront part of Jersey City. I was referring to places most think of when raising a family and wanting to own a home with a driveway.