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That place is New Jersey. Mortgages for a real house with land for less than an apartment rent in SF. I think California is also known for regulation and taxa

That place is New Jersey. Mortgages for a real house with land for less than an apartment rent in SF. I think California is also known for regulation and taxation. Solid public and private school options. Lovely little towns every couple of miles.

meri_dian 9y ago
Glad to see NJ get some positive mention here. Been living in NJ all my life and it's always sad to see people bash it based on a few trips they've had on the Turnpike up around NYC. The state really has it all. Expensive, but an excellent mix of suburbia, rural lands to the west and south, and (somewhat) easy access to one of the greatest cities in the world.
- vinceguidry 9y ago
  Everything but the weather. Lots of NJ transplants in Atlanta and Florida. They make the trip back up to walk the boards and rub elbows with their old friends for a few weeks but spend most of the year where it's warm.
  - zintinio5 9y ago
    We're pretty comfy here 9/12 months a year. The Spring and Fall are fantastic, and Winter is getting milder each year.
- madlynormal 9y ago
  This past year I moved from NYC (Queens) to Central NJ and it's been a positive experience. It's surprising how beautiful this state really is. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), those who's experience with NJ solely consist of driving along the Turnpike, or landing in EWR, really have no idea.
DannyBee 9y ago
"That place is New Jersey."? It has the highest property taxes in the country, high insurance rates, etc. I grew up there, it definitely has it's downsides too. I'd choose it over California, for sure, but New Jersey is definitely not cheap.
- lallysingh 9y ago
  Compared to SF Bay or NYC, I think it is. Rest of USA, arguable at best.
dr_ 9y ago
I grew up in NJ and still have family there and I agree. It also an incredibly diverse state and, as of now, that diversity is reflected in the state government - more so, I think, than any state government in the country.

meri_dian 9y ago

Glad to see NJ get some positive mention here. Been living in NJ all my life and it's always sad to see people bash it based on a few trips they've had on the Turnpike up around NYC. The state really has it all. Expensive, but an excellent mix of suburbia, rural lands to the west and south, and (somewhat) easy access to one of the greatest cities in the world.

vinceguidry 9y ago
Everything but the weather. Lots of NJ transplants in Atlanta and Florida. They make the trip back up to walk the boards and rub elbows with their old friends for a few weeks but spend most of the year where it's warm.
- zintinio5 9y ago
  We're pretty comfy here 9/12 months a year. The Spring and Fall are fantastic, and Winter is getting milder each year.
madlynormal 9y ago
This past year I moved from NYC (Queens) to Central NJ and it's been a positive experience. It's surprising how beautiful this state really is. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), those who's experience with NJ solely consist of driving along the Turnpike, or landing in EWR, really have no idea.

DannyBee 9y ago

"That place is New Jersey."? It has the highest property taxes in the country, high insurance rates, etc. I grew up there, it definitely has it's downsides too. I'd choose it over California, for sure, but New Jersey is definitely not cheap.

lallysingh 9y ago
Compared to SF Bay or NYC, I think it is. Rest of USA, arguable at best.

dr_ 9y ago

I grew up in NJ and still have family there and I agree. It also an incredibly diverse state and, as of now, that diversity is reflected in the state government - more so, I think, than any state government in the country.