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Cheaper rent than Silicon Valley, tons of cultural diversity, and amazing food. Really nice place to live.
by jdlyga 9y ago
Cheaper rent than Silicon Valley, tons of cultural diversity, and amazing food. Really nice place to live.
- JustAnotherPat 9y agoNYC is actually amongst the lowest for Cost of Living adjusted salaries out of all the major tech cities: https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017 https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017 Rent isn't exactly cheap in NYC
- spyspy 9y agoHere's the 2018 report: https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2018 https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2018
- humanrebar 9y agoThe problem with these numbers is that adjusting an entire salary for cost of living only makes sense for people living paycheck to paycheck. The real question is how much wealth a tech worker can accumulate in each city. If you're saving 10% a year no matter where you live, you're best optimizing for salary and ignoring cost of living.
- closeparen 9y agoExcept that saving 10% makes you a homeowner in some places and a roommate in others. If you view your job as temporary pain and plan to relocate or retire before starting “real life,” that makes sense. If you’re trying to build a long-term sustainable and fulfilling life that includes a tech job, not so much. Nominal value in a bank account is useless; you need purchasing power.
- humanrebar 9y agoWell, the argument is the same with respect to most consumer goods. The new XPS 13 is the same price in Wyoming and San Fransisco. Adjusting the electronics budget of a household for cost of living generally doesn't make sense, which was my actual point.
- closeparen 9y agoWhat kind of household is spending enough on consumer goods for that to matter? I am not exactly thrifty or a Luddite, but electronics, clothes, etc. have never been more than 5% of my spending. I don’t feel comfortable spending on travel at all given the Herculean savings targets needed for an emergency fund or down payment here. Rent is 67% of my outflows, followed by food (my main luxury purchase is not having to cook). Regardless, good cost of living calculators don’t just take the ratio of housing prices, they use a typical consumer’s basket of goods, some of which may be the same price.
- jimmy1 9y agoHigh stress, high pollution, rat race of a lifestyle, you are regulated and taxed on more things you even thought possible, and one of the worst imaginable places to try and raise a family. It has it's pros and cons, but I think we both agree it is certainly better than Silicon Valley. It's great if you are a young professional figuring out the world, but eventually people want their space and be able to stretch out their legs.
- bazooka_penguin 9y agoYou can always move to central Jersey and take a train
- zdky 9y agoHow long is the train ride usually? I've never been to NY
- lallysingh 9y agoMine is 36 min to Penn station. Then add subway time + walk + train wait time to that for a good estimate. Walking to my train station in NJ, door to door for me is 1hr 10min. Less than an hour if I drive to the station.
- bazooka_penguin 9y agoI'd say around 40 minutes + whatever traveling you do within the city. It's pretty common for people in areas like Piscataway.
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- austinshea 9y agoYeah, but when people want that they don’t need to leave NY. Westchester is a great place to raise kids, and the Metro North is fairly relaxing commute.
- pbecotte 9y ago
- humanrebar 9y agoI think New York is good but overrated as a food scene, especially dollar for dollar.
- adrianparsons 9y agoI live in NYC and the main difference I noticed about food in CA is how produce-centric it is. NYC food is incredible, but eating out usually means meat, cheese, and bread.
- humanrebar 9y agoEven if you love meat, cheese, and bread, there are other cities that do it as well (pizza debates aside) or better. For example, the taco scene in NYC basically doesn't exist. The burrito scene is Chipotle-style places. Frankly, the rent is just too high to be too innovative at a reasonable price.
- Redoubts 9y agoCompared to what? SF is a joke to me, compared to LA or NY.