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A lot of people experiment with various psychedelic drugs for the psychedelic purposes. Marijuana is pretty much normal. LSD is sometimes used in the form of mi

A lot of people experiment with various psychedelic drugs for the psychedelic purposes. Marijuana is pretty much normal. LSD is sometimes used in the form of microdosing that produces no psychedelic effects and should improve focus and creative thinking. And of course coffee and alcohol are abused hugely.

monocasa 9y ago
And MDMA. I've heard a fellow engineer say, "it lets me enjoy being an extrovert."
- TomMarius 9y ago
  Yeah, forgot to mention that one, very true.
- Eilene 9y ago
  Can you work better on ecstasy though? Isn't that more a recreational thing than a productivity related thing?
  - ozzmotik 9y ago
    i find psychedelic experiences to be very beneficial to productive states if you wield them properly, and stimulants often do help with focus and efficiency when it comes to working, so, i could certainly see MDMA having some very beneficial neurological effects during the course of the experience.
    - vimcat 9y ago
      I’m perfectly agree with “Neurological” effects on MDMA.
- vimcat 9y ago
  I found CandyFlipping - First LSD,4hours later Molly, is one of the best combination for coding. It gives you a very strong sense of color.
Eilene 9y ago
Yes, I've been reading about psychedelics. But that seems to be more to spark creativity (and there also appears to be some actual therapeutic benefits to it). Whereas opioids or stimulants seem to be used for different purposes.
- TomMarius 9y ago
  Sure. LSD is very special because it actually helps to focus more as well as increases creativity (if we're talking about microdosing). Stimulants and opioids are not really that common. High quality cocaine can be seen but it's not really "normal" like the other drugs are. Meth, crack and heroin are hugely frowned upon, it's a failure to be a user of these. MDMA and LSD have very different effect based on dosage. It's entirely possible to work (better than normally) on small doses and of course it's purely recreational in bigger doses.
  - Eilene 9y ago
    And the drugs that are frowned upon... that's (as far as your experience goes) in the tech industry? I know lawyers that had meth addictions. Peter used coke, adderall and meth. It sounds like cocaine is more widely accepted (and perhaps legal stimulants like adderall, ritalin, concerta, etc.?)
    - TomMarius 9y ago
      Yes, in the tech industry, and all of it is of course only my personal experience. It's seen as a failure to get addicted, so these highly addictive substances are out completely. They also don't really give you anything apart from problems (compared to other drugs). Cocaine is seen as somewhat OK but uncommon because it's hard to find cocaine that is of OK quality for an OK price (you definitely can't buy that on the street) - and again, addiction is a failure. Some people fear legal stimulants more than they fear LSD; but they're definitely pretty common (especially within student groups) and not frowned upon at all, I've seen people have (not prescribed) Adderall placed visibly on their desks. Being visibly influenced by a drug is a huge failure as well. It's OK if you take and it's not visible but once you act differently (e.g. talking too fast, slightly jumping around while standing etc.), people will think badly of you and you will be a target of jokes. Having a different behaviour even if you haven't taken the drug (e.g. if you get cravings for it) is seen as bad too.

monocasa 9y ago

And MDMA. I've heard a fellow engineer say, "it lets me enjoy being an extrovert."

TomMarius 9y ago
Yeah, forgot to mention that one, very true.
Eilene 9y ago
Can you work better on ecstasy though? Isn't that more a recreational thing than a productivity related thing?
- ozzmotik 9y ago
  i find psychedelic experiences to be very beneficial to productive states if you wield them properly, and stimulants often do help with focus and efficiency when it comes to working, so, i could certainly see MDMA having some very beneficial neurological effects during the course of the experience.
  - vimcat 9y ago
    I’m perfectly agree with “Neurological” effects on MDMA.
vimcat 9y ago
I found CandyFlipping - First LSD,4hours later Molly, is one of the best combination for coding. It gives you a very strong sense of color.

Eilene 9y ago

Yes, I've been reading about psychedelics. But that seems to be more to spark creativity (and there also appears to be some actual therapeutic benefits to it). Whereas opioids or stimulants seem to be used for different purposes.

TomMarius 9y ago
Sure. LSD is very special because it actually helps to focus more as well as increases creativity (if we're talking about microdosing). Stimulants and opioids are not really that common. High quality cocaine can be seen but it's not really "normal" like the other drugs are. Meth, crack and heroin are hugely frowned upon, it's a failure to be a user of these. MDMA and LSD have very different effect based on dosage. It's entirely possible to work (better than normally) on small doses and of course it's purely recreational in bigger doses.
- Eilene 9y ago
  And the drugs that are frowned upon... that's (as far as your experience goes) in the tech industry? I know lawyers that had meth addictions. Peter used coke, adderall and meth. It sounds like cocaine is more widely accepted (and perhaps legal stimulants like adderall, ritalin, concerta, etc.?)
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    Yes, in the tech industry, and all of it is of course only my personal experience. It's seen as a failure to get addicted, so these highly addictive substances are out completely. They also don't really give you anything apart from problems (compared to other drugs). Cocaine is seen as somewhat OK but uncommon because it's hard to find cocaine that is of OK quality for an OK price (you definitely can't buy that on the street) - and again, addiction is a failure. Some people fear legal stimulants more than they fear LSD; but they're definitely pretty common (especially within student groups) and not frowned upon at all, I've seen people have (not prescribed) Adderall placed visibly on their desks. Being visibly influenced by a drug is a huge failure as well. It's OK if you take and it's not visible but once you act differently (e.g. talking too fast, slightly jumping around while standing etc.), people will think badly of you and you will be a target of jokes. Having a different behaviour even if you haven't taken the drug (e.g. if you get cravings for it) is seen as bad too.