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Can you provide any reference or evidence to support these statements?

by spac 9y ago

amyjess 9y ago
oflannabhra's comment elsewhere in this thread gives a source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16465498 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16465498
swvjeff 9y ago
From a post right above: > From Apple’s actual iCloud security document: >> The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as S3 and Google Cloud Platform.
- spac 9y ago
  There must a misunderstanding. I was asking supporting evidence that Apple ran its own storage. This is evidence that Apple is using storage service from other companies.
kziojzwsndppqgg 9y ago
Nothing in public, no. Apple doesn’t talk about this stuff generally. But I know because I helped build a lot of it.
- rconti 9y ago
  I'm familiar with the kind of amounts of storage (in terms of cabinets, # of arrays) for various reasons, and I assumed it was the iCloud storage because of how vast it is. On the other hand, with the high-end gear they're using, likely the cost/GB is insane and more than Google or AWS charges them. I can't imagine the big cloud providers are buying top-end arrays, but I could be wrong.
buildbuildbuild 9y ago
iCloud is a product with much larger storage requirements than compute. Prior to iCloud's launch Apple built a massive $1bn datacenter in North Carolina and has continued to build new facilities at an aggressive pace. I presume they are leaning into large public cloud platforms when their own capacity runs low. https://www.cultofmac.com/31260/aerial-footage-of-apples-new-north-carolina-data-center-shows-massive-facility/ https://www.cultofmac.com/31260/aerial-footage-of-apples-new... http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/02/apple-inc-massively-expanding-its-icloud-data-centers-in-nevada-oregon http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/02/apple-inc-massivel...
- aburan28 9y ago
  Yes along with their fancy new data centers in Prineville, Mesa, Maiden and Reno!

Can you provide any reference or evidence to support these statements?

by spac 9y ago

Can you provide any reference or evidence to support these statements?

oflannabhra's comment elsewhere in this thread gives a source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16465498 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16465498

swvjeff 9y ago

From a post right above: > From Apple’s actual iCloud security document: >> The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as S3 and Google Cloud Platform.

spac 9y ago
There must a misunderstanding. I was asking supporting evidence that Apple ran its own storage. This is evidence that Apple is using storage service from other companies.

kziojzwsndppqgg 9y ago

Nothing in public, no. Apple doesn’t talk about this stuff generally. But I know because I helped build a lot of it.

rconti 9y ago
I'm familiar with the kind of amounts of storage (in terms of cabinets, # of arrays) for various reasons, and I assumed it was the iCloud storage because of how vast it is. On the other hand, with the high-end gear they're using, likely the cost/GB is insane and more than Google or AWS charges them. I can't imagine the big cloud providers are buying top-end arrays, but I could be wrong.

buildbuildbuild 9y ago

iCloud is a product with much larger storage requirements than compute. Prior to iCloud's launch Apple built a massive $1bn datacenter in North Carolina and has continued to build new facilities at an aggressive pace. I presume they are leaning into large public cloud platforms when their own capacity runs low. https://www.cultofmac.com/31260/aerial-footage-of-apples-new-north-carolina-data-center-shows-massive-facility/ https://www.cultofmac.com/31260/aerial-footage-of-apples-new... http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/02/apple-inc-massively-expanding-its-icloud-data-centers-in-nevada-oregon http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/02/apple-inc-massivel...

aburan28 9y ago
Yes along with their fancy new data centers in Prineville, Mesa, Maiden and Reno!