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Strange that they're using Google and not Amazon, considering Google (and MS) are direct competitors in the mobile device space. Also this doesn't imply that u

Strange that they're using Google and not Amazon, considering Google (and MS) are direct competitors in the mobile device space. Also this doesn't imply that user privacy is less secure, since they probably still encrypt user data before it goes to Google's servers.

romanovcode 9y ago
> since they probably still encrypt user data before it goes to Google's servers. It still looks pretty bad for them.
- bpicolo 9y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGFriOKz6U&feature=youtu.be&t=25m43s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGFriOKz6U&feature=youtu.be... They take security for these things seriously. You can store data safely even in adversarial clouds.
- rsynnott 9y ago
  How does it look bad for them? I don't really get how moving from Azure to Google Cloud is really of interest to anyone much.
eli 9y ago
There's been an interesting trend of big retailers transitioning away from AWS because Amazon is a direct competitor: https://www.retaildive.com/news/report-walmart-asking-suppliers-to-quit-amazon-cloud/445509/ https://www.retaildive.com/news/report-walmart-asking-suppli...
- karambahh 9y ago
  In Europe, we are seeing an reverse trend. 5 years ago, selling SaaS hosted on AWS to retailers was an instant no-go "we're not funding our competitor" was told to many of my competitors Nowadays, they've come to the realization that by refusing to do business with companies relying on AWS they were in effect loosing more money. (I am specifically referring to retailers in orders of magnitude of WalMart. mom & pop shops never cared or asked questions)
whatthesmack 9y ago
>For years the document contained language indicating that iCloud services were relying on remote data storage systems from Amazon Web Services, as well as Microsoft's Azure. >But in the latest version, the Microsoft Azure reference is gone, and in its place is Google Cloud Platform. To me, this seems to imply that they still use Amazon.
timdorr 9y ago
They use Amazon as well: > The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as S3 and Google Cloud Platform. https://images.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf https://images.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pd... Page 53.
neolefty 9y ago
They also use Samsung-fabbed chips. They just try to not be dependent on a competitor.
madeofpalk 9y ago
If you read the linked PDF document, it mentions they use AWS as well > The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as S3 and Google Cloud Platform.
briffle 9y ago
Aren't Amazon and Apple direct competitors as well? (tablets, streaming music, streaming video, home automation, voice commands)

romanovcode 9y ago

> since they probably still encrypt user data before it goes to Google's servers. It still looks pretty bad for them.

bpicolo 9y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGFriOKz6U&feature=youtu.be&t=25m43s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGFriOKz6U&feature=youtu.be... They take security for these things seriously. You can store data safely even in adversarial clouds.
rsynnott 9y ago
How does it look bad for them? I don't really get how moving from Azure to Google Cloud is really of interest to anyone much.

eli 9y ago

There's been an interesting trend of big retailers transitioning away from AWS because Amazon is a direct competitor: https://www.retaildive.com/news/report-walmart-asking-suppliers-to-quit-amazon-cloud/445509/ https://www.retaildive.com/news/report-walmart-asking-suppli...

karambahh 9y ago
In Europe, we are seeing an reverse trend. 5 years ago, selling SaaS hosted on AWS to retailers was an instant no-go "we're not funding our competitor" was told to many of my competitors Nowadays, they've come to the realization that by refusing to do business with companies relying on AWS they were in effect loosing more money. (I am specifically referring to retailers in orders of magnitude of WalMart. mom & pop shops never cared or asked questions)

whatthesmack 9y ago

>For years the document contained language indicating that iCloud services were relying on remote data storage systems from Amazon Web Services, as well as Microsoft's Azure. >But in the latest version, the Microsoft Azure reference is gone, and in its place is Google Cloud Platform. To me, this seems to imply that they still use Amazon.

timdorr 9y ago

They use Amazon as well: > The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as S3 and Google Cloud Platform. https://images.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf https://images.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pd... Page 53.

neolefty 9y ago

They also use Samsung-fabbed chips. They just try to not be dependent on a competitor.

madeofpalk 9y ago

If you read the linked PDF document, it mentions they use AWS as well > The encrypted chunks of the file are stored, without any user-identifying information, using third-party storage services, such as S3 and Google Cloud Platform.

briffle 9y ago

Aren't Amazon and Apple direct competitors as well? (tablets, streaming music, streaming video, home automation, voice commands)