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Thanks for sharing this. Drawing a connection between the superstition of superhero movies and ghost dancers is simply brilliant.

by ebcode 9y ago

bitwize 9y ago
It reminded me that one of the most enlightening things I realized about superheroes was when I noticed that recent Superman movies try too hard to tie the Man of Steel to Jesus with a bunch of transparent cinematic metaphors. The best way to imagine Superman is as a messiah, but explicitly not Jesus: He is the messiah as imagined by a Jewish kid raised on mid-20th-century science fiction.
- ghostDancer 9y ago
  The original Superman , the comics one is more like Moses, now the movies are "converting" him in Jesus-alike.
  - ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
    Superman's origin story in both Movies and Comics is absolutely based on Moses. But I don't think Superman really acts like Jesus, or Moses would in any situation. I'm curious how you think the comics express Superman's personality or actions differently than the movies?
    - IntronExon 9y ago
      In the absence of anything other than a common origin, it may not be based on Moses. The story of Moses abandonment and adoption is itself a retelling of an older Sumerian myth, and thst was probably a retelling as well.
      - jessaustin 9y ago
        Go far enough back, and it's a metaphor for the fact that humanity themselves are descended from aliens, rather than evolved from terrestrial primates. Perhaps humans remembered this in ancient Sumeria or before? See also: The Jungle Book.
        IntronExon 9y ago
        We’re all just Golgafrinchan middle managers.
      - twic 9y ago
        That would be Sargon I: http://www.fortfairfieldjournal.com/fte/060717.html http://www.fortfairfieldjournal.com/fte/060717.html There's a great big book about it. Google, the company famed for having the greatest command of search and machine learning on the planet, classifies it under "abandoned children": https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Sargon_Legend.html?id=v_pwQgAACAAJ https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Sargon_Legend.htm...
- benbreen 9y ago
  The Amazing Adventures of Klavier and Clay by Michael Chabon touches on this idea. One of my favorite contemporary novels and a really fun read.
- IntronExon 9y ago
  To be fair, Jesus was also the messiah as imagined by Jewish people, just a bit earlier in time.
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Thanks for sharing this. Drawing a connection between the superstition of superhero movies and ghost dancers is simply brilliant.

by ebcode 9y ago

Thanks for sharing this. Drawing a connection between the superstition of superhero movies and ghost dancers is simply brilliant.

bitwize 9y ago

It reminded me that one of the most enlightening things I realized about superheroes was when I noticed that recent Superman movies try too hard to tie the Man of Steel to Jesus with a bunch of transparent cinematic metaphors. The best way to imagine Superman is as a messiah, but explicitly not Jesus: He is the messiah as imagined by a Jewish kid raised on mid-20th-century science fiction.

ghostDancer 9y ago
The original Superman , the comics one is more like Moses, now the movies are "converting" him in Jesus-alike.
- ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
  Superman's origin story in both Movies and Comics is absolutely based on Moses. But I don't think Superman really acts like Jesus, or Moses would in any situation. I'm curious how you think the comics express Superman's personality or actions differently than the movies?
  - IntronExon 9y ago
    In the absence of anything other than a common origin, it may not be based on Moses. The story of Moses abandonment and adoption is itself a retelling of an older Sumerian myth, and thst was probably a retelling as well.
    - jessaustin 9y ago
      Go far enough back, and it's a metaphor for the fact that humanity themselves are descended from aliens, rather than evolved from terrestrial primates. Perhaps humans remembered this in ancient Sumeria or before? See also: The Jungle Book.
      - IntronExon 9y ago
        We’re all just Golgafrinchan middle managers.
    - twic 9y ago
      That would be Sargon I: http://www.fortfairfieldjournal.com/fte/060717.html http://www.fortfairfieldjournal.com/fte/060717.html There's a great big book about it. Google, the company famed for having the greatest command of search and machine learning on the planet, classifies it under "abandoned children": https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Sargon_Legend.html?id=v_pwQgAACAAJ https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Sargon_Legend.htm...
benbreen 9y ago
The Amazing Adventures of Klavier and Clay by Michael Chabon touches on this idea. One of my favorite contemporary novels and a really fun read.
IntronExon 9y ago
To be fair, Jesus was also the messiah as imagined by Jewish people, just a bit earlier in time.

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