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I still don't understand the words "fuck" and "shit" still being censored. Their shock value is long gone, isn't it? The song, and the video are great by the w

by kilian 16y ago

I still don't understand the words "fuck" and "shit" still being censored. Their shock value is long gone, isn't it? The song, and the video are great by the way, and the distribution a perfect example of why the internet works so well. It's also great to sing along to. Loudly. Edit. This song has had some fun 'remixes' too, check out Dirty Dancing: http://vimeo.com/14363611 http://vimeo.com/14363611

TallGuyShort 16y ago
Ignoring what one considers appropriate for children, I personally just find them to be incredibly ugly sounding words, and I generally don't enjoy being around people who can't speak without using them. So regardless of what the FCC will choose to censor, I for one just wouldn't listen to a radio station that made a habit of broadcasting it.
- kilian 16y ago
  Sure, but it's not like censoring radio and television will keep children from hearing and/or using them. In fact, I'd wager to say they don't even play a role. Back when I was a little kid, swearwords came from older children, and were often far worse than the ones mentioned here. I'm with you on not finding people who can't speak without using swearwords to be intolerable, but when used to express emotion (such as in this song), I don't mind it at all.
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    > In fact, I'd wager to say they don't even play a role. As someone wearing black tight skinny jeans, I'd go one step further and say that it plays a very important role: by being 'taboo,' curse words enable adolescent rebellion, and cause kids to use them _more_. See also smoking, drinking, and drugs.
wwortiz 16y ago
Sometimes the shock value is gone but it really has to do with context. The song is rather light and poppy but the way 'fuck you' is put in there is meant to be offensive and that is when the shock value still exists. If you stub your toe and curse it really isn't shocking but when you fight with someone and start yelling expletives it can be shocking and offensive. However I don't see context based censorship happening anytime soon and it is easier just to police a list of banned words and let the new media shine otherwise.
points 16y ago
I think you have to censor for kids - eg don't play it uncensored in public places. For a good laugh though checkout "Uzi Lover": Lyrics - "C@nt! B@tch! C@nt! B@tch! Motherf@cker!" - "Shove it up her motherf@cking ass and fry it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxZ4tsp8gc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxZ4tsp8gc (From 'The Day Today' spoof TV series)
gojomo 16y ago
We need words whose underlying connotation is 'not allowed to say this'. So censoring 'fuck' doesn't indicate a dislike for it -- but a respect for its special role. It's like not listening to a favorite song so much that it becomes commonplace to your ears. You don't want to steal from children their first chance to shock someone with a 'fuck you', do you? Think of the children!

by kilian 16y ago

TallGuyShort 16y ago

Ignoring what one considers appropriate for children, I personally just find them to be incredibly ugly sounding words, and I generally don't enjoy being around people who can't speak without using them. So regardless of what the FCC will choose to censor, I for one just wouldn't listen to a radio station that made a habit of broadcasting it.

kilian 16y ago
Sure, but it's not like censoring radio and television will keep children from hearing and/or using them. In fact, I'd wager to say they don't even play a role. Back when I was a little kid, swearwords came from older children, and were often far worse than the ones mentioned here. I'm with you on not finding people who can't speak without using swearwords to be intolerable, but when used to express emotion (such as in this song), I don't mind it at all.
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  > In fact, I'd wager to say they don't even play a role. As someone wearing black tight skinny jeans, I'd go one step further and say that it plays a very important role: by being 'taboo,' curse words enable adolescent rebellion, and cause kids to use them _more_. See also smoking, drinking, and drugs.

wwortiz 16y ago

Sometimes the shock value is gone but it really has to do with context. The song is rather light and poppy but the way 'fuck you' is put in there is meant to be offensive and that is when the shock value still exists. If you stub your toe and curse it really isn't shocking but when you fight with someone and start yelling expletives it can be shocking and offensive. However I don't see context based censorship happening anytime soon and it is easier just to police a list of banned words and let the new media shine otherwise.

points 16y ago

I think you have to censor for kids - eg don't play it uncensored in public places. For a good laugh though checkout "Uzi Lover": Lyrics - "C@nt! B@tch! C@nt! B@tch! Motherf@cker!" - "Shove it up her motherf@cking ass and fry it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxZ4tsp8gc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxZ4tsp8gc (From 'The Day Today' spoof TV series)

gojomo 16y ago

We need words whose underlying connotation is 'not allowed to say this'. So censoring 'fuck' doesn't indicate a dislike for it -- but a respect for its special role. It's like not listening to a favorite song so much that it becomes commonplace to your ears. You don't want to steal from children their first chance to shock someone with a 'fuck you', do you? Think of the children!