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Exactly. Just like I'm not buying a computer on which I cannot run Linux, I'm not buying a smartphone which isn't supported by LineageOS.

by blfr 9y ago

samplatt 9y ago
>It is the successor to the highly popular custom ROM CyanogenMod, from which it was forked in December 2016 when Cyanogen Inc. announced it was discontinuing development Oh. My. God. Thank you. Around about the S5/S7 era I stoppped flashing my phone every 5 minutes, but now with my S7 drinking battery fluid every minute of the day I've been wondering where CM had gone.
- mehrdadn 9y ago
  It's not quite Cyanogenmod though, don't get your hopes up too high. It doesn't have the most critical stuff I liked, like blacklisting non-contacts.
  - blfr 9y ago
    That seems like a dialer feature, not an OS one.
    - mehrdadn 9y ago
      I'm not sure how that affects my point? Which was that you'll be missing the feature when you use LOS. (Not to mention I don't know how true it is either... the blacklist page was very much in my OS settings.)
      - blfr 9y ago
        If it's a dialer feature then you can just install any dialer which provides it.
        mehrdadn 9y ago
        I believe that would be possible even if it were not a dialer feature in CM? Also, I did look around for dialers, but a lot of them seem to do "cloud" stuff of some sort, which I definitely don't want. I ended up finding a non-dialer program to do this, but even that was a pain, since most of them that I tried are either missing functionality or buggy in one way or another.
thaumasiotes 9y ago
Cyanogenmod supported a lot of phones. LineageOS seems to have a lot of trouble supporting any recent phones (and a surprising amount of trouble letting users know what is and isn't supported, in case they were interested in getting a compatible phone). I spent a while some time ago trying to watch for any modern phone to get full LineageOS support, and eventually just gave up. The closest things came was "partial support for the Galaxy S8, but it will ruin the camera". How much of a future is there here? Edit: from elsewhere in the thread ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16460503 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16460503 ): > I bought an S8 with the intention of putting LineageOS on it. Sadly to this day there are things not working which are essential, like making calls or using LTE data... or wifi.. or the camera. (Just to be clear, the Pixel is losing this comparison... it isn't supported at all. But the fact that the Pixel is losing doesn't mean we can say Samsung is winning... this looks more like a loss for everyone.)
- vfulco 9y ago
  I have an S5 (international) that I am thinking of going through the LOS upgrade. It seems super onerous process; worth it? Live in China using another badly restrained S5 (Chinese version).
  - thaumasiotes 9y ago
    I tried to build LOS from scratch for the well-understood Nexus 5, following their wiki instructions, so that my CA certificate could be a privileged "system" cert instead of a worthless "user" cert. Those instructions didn't actually work. Following the only remaining advice LOS has to offer, I went to their IRC channel to ask what was wrong. After waiting more than half a day, I eventually got a response: "no one really talks in here". Needless to say, I did not get any help.
yorby 9y ago
I need to be doing this because I am so tired of all the artificial restrictions that Google has in Android.

Exactly. Just like I'm not buying a computer on which I cannot run Linux, I'm not buying a smartphone which isn't supported by LineageOS.

by blfr 9y ago

Exactly. Just like I'm not buying a computer on which I cannot run Linux, I'm not buying a smartphone which isn't supported by LineageOS.

samplatt 9y ago

>It is the successor to the highly popular custom ROM CyanogenMod, from which it was forked in December 2016 when Cyanogen Inc. announced it was discontinuing development Oh. My. God. Thank you. Around about the S5/S7 era I stoppped flashing my phone every 5 minutes, but now with my S7 drinking battery fluid every minute of the day I've been wondering where CM had gone.

mehrdadn 9y ago
It's not quite Cyanogenmod though, don't get your hopes up too high. It doesn't have the most critical stuff I liked, like blacklisting non-contacts.
- blfr 9y ago
  That seems like a dialer feature, not an OS one.
  - mehrdadn 9y ago
    I'm not sure how that affects my point? Which was that you'll be missing the feature when you use LOS. (Not to mention I don't know how true it is either... the blacklist page was very much in my OS settings.)
    - blfr 9y ago
      If it's a dialer feature then you can just install any dialer which provides it.
      - mehrdadn 9y ago
        I believe that would be possible even if it were not a dialer feature in CM? Also, I did look around for dialers, but a lot of them seem to do "cloud" stuff of some sort, which I definitely don't want. I ended up finding a non-dialer program to do this, but even that was a pain, since most of them that I tried are either missing functionality or buggy in one way or another.

thaumasiotes 9y ago

Cyanogenmod supported a lot of phones. LineageOS seems to have a lot of trouble supporting any recent phones (and a surprising amount of trouble letting users know what is and isn't supported, in case they were interested in getting a compatible phone). I spent a while some time ago trying to watch for any modern phone to get full LineageOS support, and eventually just gave up. The closest things came was "partial support for the Galaxy S8, but it will ruin the camera". How much of a future is there here? Edit: from elsewhere in the thread ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16460503 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16460503 ): > I bought an S8 with the intention of putting LineageOS on it. Sadly to this day there are things not working which are essential, like making calls or using LTE data... or wifi.. or the camera. (Just to be clear, the Pixel is losing this comparison... it isn't supported at all. But the fact that the Pixel is losing doesn't mean we can say Samsung is winning... this looks more like a loss for everyone.)

vfulco 9y ago
I have an S5 (international) that I am thinking of going through the LOS upgrade. It seems super onerous process; worth it? Live in China using another badly restrained S5 (Chinese version).
- thaumasiotes 9y ago
  I tried to build LOS from scratch for the well-understood Nexus 5, following their wiki instructions, so that my CA certificate could be a privileged "system" cert instead of a worthless "user" cert. Those instructions didn't actually work. Following the only remaining advice LOS has to offer, I went to their IRC channel to ask what was wrong. After waiting more than half a day, I eventually got a response: "no one really talks in here". Needless to say, I did not get any help.

yorby 9y ago

I need to be doing this because I am so tired of all the artificial restrictions that Google has in Android.