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Specifically the youtube experience you describe is a problem in the youtube app itself, not in base Android. Youtube for some contrived reason decided to make

by zanny 9y ago

Specifically the youtube experience you describe is a problem in the youtube app itself, not in base Android. Youtube for some contrived reason decided to make it so that Youtube doesn't advertise itself as an audio player until its playing audio. Whenever you aren't playing a video it doesn't show up as a media controller so the system won't have the volume keys change the media volume. It used to always advertise being a media player so any time the app was active the volume buttons default changed the media volume. They just broke it intentionally.

gsich 9y ago
The Youtube app is broken because of that reason. Can't even play when screen is off. Absolutely braindead...
- nanodeath 9y ago
  Well, that's just part of their YouTube Red service they're trying to sell.
- wlesieutre 9y ago
  YouTube used to be able to play with the screen off, but Google has locked this behind a YouTube Red subscription at $10/month. Can't watch ads if you screen is off!
  - gsich 9y ago
    Thanks for the info. Although the reason is even more stupid then I thought...
    - danellis 9y ago
      It's stupider than you think. If you're a Red subscriber and you visit, say, the UK, then suddenly you can't play videos in the background any more.
      - namelost 9y ago
        It's even stupider than that. When I first subscribed to Google Play Music, in the UK, it included "YouTube Music Key", which had the same feature to allow YouTube videos to play in the background, and it worked just fine in the UK. Then they rebranded YouTube Music Key to YouTube Red, and since YouTube Red isn't available in the UK for legal reasons unrelated to backgrounding YouTube videos, they disabled the backgrounding feature in the UK, even though UK subscribers are still paying for a YouTube Red subscription (that cannot be used in the UK).
        nasredin 9y ago
        OK, stop. You've convinced me. Software programmed by attention merchants (advertisers) and IP prostitutes (lawyers) instead of engineers is stupid.
- blfr 9y ago
  I use NewPipe[1] for that. It has background and popout modes, including a queue for the background mode, and an option to speed up the video which is perfect for lining up a couple of lectures and listening to them as if they were podcasts. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

by zanny 9y ago

gsich 9y ago

The Youtube app is broken because of that reason. Can't even play when screen is off. Absolutely braindead...

nanodeath 9y ago
Well, that's just part of their YouTube Red service they're trying to sell.
wlesieutre 9y ago
YouTube used to be able to play with the screen off, but Google has locked this behind a YouTube Red subscription at $10/month. Can't watch ads if you screen is off!
- gsich 9y ago
  Thanks for the info. Although the reason is even more stupid then I thought...
  - danellis 9y ago
    It's stupider than you think. If you're a Red subscriber and you visit, say, the UK, then suddenly you can't play videos in the background any more.
    - namelost 9y ago
      It's even stupider than that. When I first subscribed to Google Play Music, in the UK, it included "YouTube Music Key", which had the same feature to allow YouTube videos to play in the background, and it worked just fine in the UK. Then they rebranded YouTube Music Key to YouTube Red, and since YouTube Red isn't available in the UK for legal reasons unrelated to backgrounding YouTube videos, they disabled the backgrounding feature in the UK, even though UK subscribers are still paying for a YouTube Red subscription (that cannot be used in the UK).
      - nasredin 9y ago
        OK, stop. You've convinced me. Software programmed by attention merchants (advertisers) and IP prostitutes (lawyers) instead of engineers is stupid.
blfr 9y ago
I use NewPipe[1] for that. It has background and popout modes, including a queue for the background mode, and an option to speed up the video which is perfect for lining up a couple of lectures and listening to them as if they were podcasts. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/